Thanks Bankwalker. Yeah I remember going up there early last year now and seeing it look more like a creek then a river. I am just itching to get on the river now that I got time off and trying not fish the skok or do the combat fishing thing. Was trying to stay close to Shelton. How far is the mouth from that schafer park area? I was also thinking about maybe trying the humptullips, chehalis, or nisqually from one of the states water acces sites? Any idea on those sites for a bank fisher?