Wanna be poachers

[hunter360]

man your buddy must have had elk piss all over him . the chance of getting attacked by a cougar is less than being hit by lighting ! sorry for your pal though . Bobcat can you run the numbers on the chance of a archery hunter being attacked in the woods by a critter ?

Ha! I'm not sure how much elk piss he had on him but yeah he was sitting quietly in a place with a lot of ferns just hunkered down listening. At the last second he heard something over his right shoulder and turned to look just as the cat jumped on him. The cat ended up glancing off of him and basically took most of his ear and left some nice scars on his face. When the cat landed in front of him he was face to face with it. The cat lunged at him and he turned away as he half drew his bow (and without aiming) let the arrow go. Only by LUCK did the arrow hit the cat and save his life. Crazy story I know, but true. It always sticks in my head when i'm out in the woods.

Read a story in a hunting or other magazine about a cougar being taken by a buddy of an archery hunting duo, while the cougar was stalking up on his partner.   It wasn't on the internet, so it must be true.

And raise your hand if you thought this thread was going to be a how to on poaching.

Good thing that guy had a hunting partner nearby 

[jasnt]

Again if an archer carries his side arm is he poaching just because he has a gun , the problem is our game laws are so confuted that you need to be a Philadelphia tax lawyer or Bobcat not to be doing some thing wrong . If you don't want to carry your bow or rifle while scouting then don't . just don't assume a guy is a poacher just because he doe's . Aren't we in America where we are inisent  till proven guilty ? ask rt about that bs, plus he did shoot a bear last year while scouting for elk with labs07 so it doe's happen .

The worst thing they ever did was allow a bowhunter to pack a side arm ...If I need to kill something that is attacking me I will use my bow ...that's why I bowhunt ...I do not need a side arm ...and if I was going to use it to poach I would be relying on my bow more than a pistol ...I wonder how many bowhunters do use their pistols to shoot at game 

Till the day(god forbid) you run in to a pack of wolves. You'll wish you had a side arm.  I pack my pistol every time I enter the woods. I've been chased by moose,confronted by bears and a cougar.  A simple warning shot is normally all it takes.

[Fl0und3rz]

I haven't been confronted by lions, and tigers, and bears, but I have had some curious mice investigate my face while sleeping.  In one instance, a dorito-baited ambush was successfully pulled off using .22 LR rat shot. 

In another ill-conceived effort to thwart an attack, a misaimed 10 mm round impacted in the dirt next to the mouse.  After we both sat there in stunned silence, he walked it off like it was nothing.  After that, if I am expecting to be in the woods with these rabid beasts, I bring more gun than a 10 mm.

[Jonathan_S]

An arrow in a charging bear isnt going to mean much....a 44mag to the head neck or chest is going to do way more

not to mention it takes a little longer to nock and fire an arrow than it does to draw and fire a gun.  and if your arrow misses youre screwed, you can keep pulling the guns trigger.  and who says you get enough warning to use your bow when being attacked?  things happen FAST sometimes.  the guy who says hell use his bow if an animal is attacking him is high.

   I dare anyone to go on a bivy hunt in the wedge without a sidearm and feel good about that choice.  Black bears, griz, wolves, cougars, and some of those people.

[rosscrazyelk]

I did not read everyone's post but unless I am wrong.  Deer opened the first and who would not takeadvantage of locating some bulls for the next day. . Just my

[KFhunter]

coachcw,
 
I was the same as you, never packed anything with me.  When I was younger I lived in the woods, out by myself almost every day miles and miles from the truck at all hours - never gave it a second thought.  Cougar and Bear were run by hound hunters and scared of humans,  trappers worked the yotes over pretty good and deer, well the deer was 10x the current population.  We didn't have a predator pit.

Most of the roads were open to vehicles.  There was farms on a lot of the tillable land that now sits with young stands of timber or houses.  Wolves were something in the history books.  There was grizz, but they were so rare sightings was written off as a blonde black bear most likely.

Then one day I really needed a pistol - and didn't have one, what made it bad was I had kids with me who were wholly dependant on me to get them back safely.


Swore an oath under my breath to myself, to my kids and other people's kids that are with me........that I'll never be caught in that situation again.

[Hunt4ever]

I did not read everyone's post but unless I am wrong.  Deer opened the first and who would not takeadvantage of locating some bulls for the next day. . Just my

you dont need to read the other posts, you pretty much summed up how this whole post SHOULD have ended...

[coachcw]

kf hunter I hear you but 99% of guys don't need one . I had a griz take a six point bull from me while bow hunting, one of the craziest moments I've ever had in the woods , I guess I just found out the pecking order on that mountain , and really if I had a gun things coulda turned out worse for either him or I . plus if you hunt with rt he's scary enough to make bigfoot run 

[Bigshooter]

I have cow calls in my pack almost year round! I have packed my bugle tube on rifle bear hunts...am I hunting elk? nope

 

When I bear hunt before archery elk season, during archery elk season, and after archery elk season I have elk calls with me.  And not once was I ever thinking about killing an elk.

[KFhunter]

kf hunter I hear you but 99% of guys don't need one . I had a griz take a six point bull from me while bow hunting, one of the craziest moments I've ever had in the woods , I guess I just found out the pecking order on that mountain , and really if I had a gun things coulda turned out worse for either him or I . plus if you hunt with rt he's scary enough to make bigfoot run 

I'll agree the % is really low that you'd ever need it.   
If you support the right to carry it we have no arguement 


Now back to the topic....

What if I carry a foxpro with turkey sounds on it, and turkey decoys while cougar hunting (not during turkey season) and am using a 30-06 ?


Am I a would-be-poacher of turkey?

[coachcw]

I agree we should have the right to cary in fact im thinking of heading over to starbucks  for coffee !

[grundy53]

Again if an archer carries his side arm is he poaching just because he has a gun , the problem is our game laws are so confuted that you need to be a Philadelphia tax lawyer or Bobcat not to be doing some thing wrong . If you don't want to carry your bow or rifle while scouting then don't . just don't assume a guy is a poacher just because he doe's . Aren't we in America where we are inisent  till proven guilty ? ask rt about that bs, plus he did shoot a bear last year while scouting for elk with labs07 so it doe's happen .

The worst thing they ever did was allow a bowhunter to pack a side arm ...If I need to kill something that is attacking me I will use my bow ...that's why I bowhunt ...I do not need a side arm ...and if I was going to use it to poach I would be relying on my bow more than a pistol ...I wonder how many bowhunters do use their pistols to shoot at game 

bow hunters that carry side arms are afraid of things that go bump in the night ! with the exception of griz country . I would venture to say that most bow hunters are better with a bow than a pistol so why would they try to shoot with a side arm ?

I have to disagree with you two. 

"bump in the night" comment was a bit condescending. 

If archers aren't allowed to exercise their 2a rights just because they are bowhunting;  I wonder what other activities one could come up with as well?

KF don't get wound up about the bump in the night dude , i'm cool with us having the right to carry , my point is you don't need one . I;ve spend countless hours in the woods both in the dark and light of day. the reality is a guy dosn't need a pistol inless he's in griz country / maybe we have so many wolve that wdfw demed it nessisary to pack.

Yeah you don't need one... until you REALLY need one. I may never need one in my life. But IF I do need one I want one with me not sitting at home useless...

[smartazz171]

Smart.....you dont need to appologize, but you should be embarrassed..........whats with some of you guys ?

Thanks, I do.  I'm definitely out of the loop, i guess

[MattySuto]

Smart.....you dont need to appologize, but you should be embarrassed..........whats with some of you guys ?

Thanks, I do.  I'm definitely out of the loop, i guess

if you dont have 5 yellow/red/blue blocks over your avatar youll never be in the loop...youll find that out quick!!

[KFhunter]

Smart.....you dont need to appologize, but you should be embarrassed..........whats with some of you guys ?

Thanks, I do.  I'm definitely out of the loop, i guess

if you dont have 5 yellow/red/blue blocks over your avatar youll never be in the loop...youll find that out quick!!

ROFL - that made me