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Ryderwood
« on: September 20, 2013, 07:08:57 AM »
My first post.  I think I know how the replies will go, if any, but I'll give it a try. 
I've been deer, duck, turkey, and everything else hunting since about 1978 (when I went through firearm safety at 12). 
I've tried elk hunting several times, never hardcore.  My folks lived in Forks for awhile, but I opted not to shoot an elk out of their back yard (literally), so I've yet to kill one.  Hunted the Nile unit once or twice.  Spent some time on Grouse Ridge with a muzzleloader some years back. 
Been putting in for Toutle and Margaret the last few years.  Have some friends in Vancouver.  Looking forward to that tag someday.
That being said, here I am again without a special permit.  I was down in the Ryderwood area last year before the muzzle season scouting around Abernathy Creek.  Did see a few cows, and found a bit of sign.  When I emailed the biologist for the area, they just said off of Wildwood Road.
I'm hoping to drive down Sunday to scout a bit.  I'll have my bike, and would like to spend the day behind a gate or berm somewhere.  not opposed to going into the brush or timber.
If anyone is willing to share a road number, creek drainage, anything that would give me an idea where to start, it'd be much appreciated. 
If you want to PM me, I'll gladly let you know what I see, or don't see.  Might save you some scouting time?
Thank you

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2013, 07:20:14 AM »
Welcome to the site wish you the best of luck this season :)

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2013, 07:30:50 AM »
I hunted Ryderwood area last year and saw plenty of cow elk and deer. 

If your hunting Weyerhaeuser land, keep in mind that it is now a permit access only.  And at $200 each permit; I can buy lots of steaks with that.     

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2013, 07:37:06 AM »
Contact the DFW and ask for the area biologist. Start cruising the roads on your bike and looking for sign. Put some miles on your boots. Welcome to the site!  :tup:
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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2013, 07:39:52 AM »
I hunted Ryderwood area last year and saw plenty of cow elk and deer. 

If your hunting Weyerhaeuser land, keep in mind that it is now a permit access only.  And at $200 each permit; I can buy lots of steaks with that.     

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:yike:   All Weyco land?
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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2013, 10:25:23 AM »
Yes all weyco is access permit now.

  Bigun- Are you hunting Muzzle or Modern? I agree with Pman and try to contact the area bio and pick their brain a little. Ask specific questions about areas you have in mind, sounds like you are already at least somewhat familiar with the unit and all of the areas are a good start. If all the bio is telling you is off wildwood, IMO that is simply a lazy answer, As that is the area focused on for the late cow hunts and herd reduction. The whole unit recieves alot of pressure, and elk number have plummeted in the area. Between the late cow tags and hoof rot the herd has taken a significant beating in recent years.

   That said elk are truly sprinkled all over, more so once hunting pressure starts. So any spot you choose should produce elk. Personally I would find some area that is conducive to the type of hunting you like to do and start their. PM sent

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2013, 10:43:30 AM »
Yes all weyco is access permit now.
I live in the St. Helens Tree Farm.
Only Central WA Operations (Pe Ell and Vail) is permit access.
!!!!!This is why I asked!!!!!   :bash:
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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2013, 10:46:49 AM »
Anyone have hard evidence that ALL Weyco land is permit only?  I've gone to their site and there it only says that Pe Ell and Vail is permit.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2013, 10:47:58 AM »
I am sorry for the confusion, I was reffering to the op asking about weyco land in the ryderwood gmu. not ALL weyco land.

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2013, 10:48:14 AM »
Anyone have hard evidence that ALL Weyco land is permit only?  I've gone to their site and there it only says that Pe Ell and Vail is permit.
:yeah:
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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2013, 10:50:44 AM »
I am sorry for the confusion, I was reffering to the op asking about weyco land in the ryderwood gmu. not ALL weyco land.
Big Sigh Of Relief...Thanks
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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2013, 10:55:13 AM »
 :chuckle:  Sure thing.  :tup:

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2013, 01:16:54 PM »
:chuckle:  Sure thing.  :tup:

Whew!  I was just planning a little jaunt over for late season.

The Pe Ell and Vail areas still breaks my heart  :ACRY:

I had no designs to be hunting there anytime soon but I cut my teeth on deer hunting in the Vail Tree Farm and I'll never see it again.

Not to mention I probably won't see Phelps behind anymore 320" bulls from Pe Ell.
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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2013, 08:40:07 PM »
I killed my last BIG bull on Weyco last year.  I refuse to pay for access.  Now I have to go chase raghorns elsewhere while all the deep pockets hunt the "MONSTERS OF WEYCO".

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2013, 10:16:17 PM »
Great unit, hold lots of critters! But your going to have to cough up the permit fee!

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2013, 10:29:55 PM »
I've gone to their site and there it only says that Pe Ell and Vail is permit.

 :yeah:

I mentioned Weyco lands due to Ryderwood GMU is about 1/3 weyco.

It would not surprise me if all weyco lands are permit only within the next couple years or so.
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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2013, 11:12:27 PM »
Pm me live there will help you out.

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2013, 04:00:22 AM »
Thanks to all!  Good luck this season.

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2013, 04:48:59 AM »
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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2013, 04:49:42 AM »
I killed my last BIG bull on Weyco last year.  I refuse to pay for access.  Now I have to go chase raghorns elsewhere while all the deep pockets hunt the "MONSTERS OF WEYCO".

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2013, 05:23:21 AM »
 :hello:Just because of the name,I'm totally interested !And they spelled it right to !where is this place ?Ya , guys I'm going to maps after I'm done pecking away at this A A R P ,SPECIAL ADDITION,key board.
loction location location ! perzackly !

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2013, 05:52:32 AM »
I killed my last BIG bull on Weyco last year.  I refuse to pay for access.  Now I have to go chase raghorns elsewhere while all the deep pockets hunt the "MONSTERS OF WEYCO".

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2013, 01:19:27 PM »
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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2013, 04:17:21 PM »

It would not surprise me if all weyco lands are permit only within the next couple years or so.
This is first on my to-do list. I hope to avoid and even reverse some of WEYCO policy. I'm sure I will have no trouble getting support from the hunting community.
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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2013, 09:35:45 AM »
Permit holders have plenty of animals to chase.  Funny watching the locals  "refuse to pay" spend over $200 in gas over a weekend  to hunt elswhere  :chuckle:

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2013, 10:05:24 AM »
It has nothing to do with the money and everything to do with the principle of it. Heck, I spent 20 times the money on gear in the offseason.  I will most likely buy a permit when it comes time for my kids to hunt (unless the talk is true and weyco is already talking about $350 next year, so who knows where it will be by 2020).

Not to mention I spent way less in gas money to hunt 14 days then I would have on weyco land.... and the kicker was I got to hunt bigg...never mind all the big ones are on Weyco.

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2013, 10:32:50 AM »
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Re: Ryderwood
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It has nothing to do with the money and everything to do with the principle of it. Heck, I spent 20 times the money on gear in the offseason.  I will most likely buy a permit when it comes time for my kids to hunt (unless the talk is true and weyco is already talking about $350 next year, so who knows where it will be by 2020).

Not to mention I spent way less in gas money to hunt 14 days then I would have on weyco land.... and the kicker was I got to hunt bigg...never mind all the big ones are on Weyco.



AGREED! It is the principal. An it will be the last big bull pulled out of there. By giving everyone vehicle access to area that was other wise closed to vehicles an hunters had to go it by foot or bike. You don't think that the animals haven't noticed a difference huh? or the fact that every person out there isn't gonna park an walk. there gonna be truck buglers an ruin the area weather a person was willing to pay or not.  An the rumor is probably true. They'll raise an raise until no one is willing to pay an the real fact is a person can take his money an go hunt out of state cheaper before long. Its a sad deal and until everyone is willing to say no an stop a resist they'll walk all over us an the future of our kids as hunters.




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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2013, 05:52:39 AM »
This area has been open to the public for years.  Since the flood in 2007 it was accessible to drive by Weyco employees.  Not to mention they haul logs out of it daily.  The bull quality is already better since it has not been open to the public in 2007.  To me its not about killing the biggest bull its about consistency and filling the freezer.  To each there own and i will "pay to play" if that's what it takes to a reasonable amount of $$$.  I went scouting during bow 3 different times and only saw 2 hunters.  Thats almost priceless to me :chuckle:

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2013, 06:13:45 PM »
is it closed acces around boistfort valley on the south side to walk in ?

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« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2013, 06:13:11 AM »
Yes it is closed to walk in.  Need to have a permit to access.

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2013, 05:03:18 AM »
anyone know where I can get access permit to pel ell tree farm- ryderwood (530)???? Please help.

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2013, 05:28:13 AM »
Try this http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/pdfs/businesses/recreationalaccess/PeEll-Hotline-Message.pdf i thought they were sold out, but its best to check for yourself.

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2013, 07:33:37 AM »
They are sold out for this year.  They atually sold out really quick. 

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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2013, 10:04:20 AM »
A SOLD OUT HUNTING AREA !WOW!can we hear ourselves printing ?no wonder locks are being cut up in rimrock,jeeeeeze !let us in already !! :bash: :bash: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: Ryderwood
« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2013, 08:07:48 AM »
Yes they sold 650 permits in a matter of a couple of hours!

 


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