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Quote from: KFhunter on October 17, 2013, 05:35:28 PMI tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you leave none humanure.Is that who that is ??
I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you leave none humanure.
Quote from: Cougartail on October 17, 2013, 12:40:06 AMLets see..In 2011 a pack of 5 wild dogs killed almost 100 animals, mostly livestock up around Deer Park, near Spokane. If you check the incident reports on wolves in Washington from 2005 to present you won't even come close to that number of wolf kills on domestics. (livestock, dogs, cats etc.)That is one pack of 5 mutts. In Tonasket, dogs killed 9 domestic sheep this year in one incident. That is more than wolves so far this year. I personally have seen 20 plus sheep mauled by roaming packs of dogs. Before blowing a bunch of hot air and calling people "rats" maybe you "wolf haters" should actually read the wolf incident reports and try and educate yourself.He's accused me of the same thing. Don't take it too personally....No one every brings up the idea that habitat loss might be hurting the elk/deer populations too. Roads, weeds, loss of logging and fire, and higher populations of other predators (bears, coyotes and lions) all have an effect. The wolf haters on here fail to see those as being SERIOUS contributing factors and are singulalarly (and simply) focused on wolves.
Lets see..In 2011 a pack of 5 wild dogs killed almost 100 animals, mostly livestock up around Deer Park, near Spokane. If you check the incident reports on wolves in Washington from 2005 to present you won't even come close to that number of wolf kills on domestics. (livestock, dogs, cats etc.)That is one pack of 5 mutts. In Tonasket, dogs killed 9 domestic sheep this year in one incident. That is more than wolves so far this year. I personally have seen 20 plus sheep mauled by roaming packs of dogs. Before blowing a bunch of hot air and calling people "rats" maybe you "wolf haters" should actually read the wolf incident reports and try and educate yourself.
Some one here are laughable. Only here to spread de-information. Believe what "reports" they read, accuse others as not knowledgable on the issue. "Do you own livestock"? "Do you spend time hunting"? Would love to spend the time disproving them on both counts, but they have made a argumental "joke" out of this thread, and don't deserve any comeback. People, take them for what they are worth...rats!
I'm so worried about how bad wolves are in Idaho, I bought tags to hunt elk and deer there this year. Gonna help wolves finish off the herds there.I'll send some wish you were here pix.
Quote from: Sitka_Blacktail on October 17, 2013, 07:51:05 PMI'm so worried about how bad wolves are in Idaho, I bought tags to hunt elk and deer there this year. Gonna help wolves finish off the herds there.I'll send some wish you were here pix.Idaho has a far better wolf plan than WA does, less breeding pairs requirements and better management of their Elk herds. Of course ID is going to have better hunting, I'm heading there myself next year and will most likely forgo all hunting in Washington. Not to mention ID has butch Otter.http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/20/us-wolves-idaho-idUSTRE73J0I120110420
Wait a minute! You guys aren't following the party line of "the wolf destruction in ID, MT and Wyoming" (quote from Wolfbait). You're going to get kickded out of the club for making Wolfbait look bad.
What I'm talking about is you're hedging on how much damage wolves have really done in Idaho. According to Wolfbait, it's almost total annihilation. Now you guys are trying to tell me why it really isn't so bad in Idaho. The real reason it isn't so bad by the way is that wolves aren't that bad in the long run.They are not the cause of herd declines or gains. They are an indicator. They go up and down with prey populations. And there is usually a little lag time involved. They are just like prey animals in that they need food to survive. If they really wiped out prey populations, they'd be doing themselves in. Nature has checks and balances that prevent that. Only one species has a tendency to get around nature's checks and balances. And that is man.