I work with a guy who just spent a week trying to get his 12 and 14 year old boys on to bulls they could shoot with their any bull tags. They only saw 2 bulls and weren't able to get shots at them. They were hunting in the nile creek and clover springs area. If anyone was in those gmu's this past week and knows where the elk are hiding please let me know and I will pass it on. They had to come home on Sunday so they wouldn't miss another week of school but they are heading back over on Friday to hopefully get something. They are not road hunters and it would be a great experience for these young guys to have some luck. Thanks