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Here is a study on the public's perception of hunting.In the past year I've read several threads on here about attempts to restrict hunting: on Whidbey Island, South Sound, and other areas. If you believe that turning undecideds against hunting won't impact our hunting future, you're not paying attention.http://www.responsivemanagement.com/download/reports/NAMWC_Public_Opinion_Hunting.pdf
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Quote from: Bob33 on October 22, 2013, 12:13:08 PMHere is a study on the public's perception of hunting.In the past year I've read several threads on here about attempts to restrict hunting: on Whidbey Island, South Sound, and other areas. If you believe that turning undecideds against hunting won't impact our hunting future, you're not paying attention.http://www.responsivemanagement.com/download/reports/NAMWC_Public_Opinion_Hunting.pdfThanks for the informative info, nice to see some facts.
Quote from: rtspring on October 23, 2013, 05:52:46 AMQuote from: thinkingman on October 22, 2013, 03:44:47 PMQuote from: bradslam on October 22, 2013, 12:03:38 PMAs some others have stated, this is about being respectful...to the animal and to others who don't share your views. When I see a fellow hunter strap an animal's head to the front of their car and parade around, I merely see someone who needs their ego stroked. I have never liked it and think it portrays hunters in a bad light. I have even seen guys with doe heads tied to the front of their vehicle, complete with tongues hanging out. Tell me how that will improve our image.When some have commented on public opinion, others on here have had the attitude of, "Screw it, we'll never change their mind anyway!" Yes, that may be true of those at the extreme end of the spectrum, but the most important group is the huge majority in the middle. They will be the ones who decide our future. Quit doing things that will turn them against us.Absolutely agree.Well said.Alot of you are missing the point. Here is the issue with anti's.. They don't like and never will like the fact that we hunters KILL any animals. You are never going to change their mind. Never, no matter what we do.. Showing a deer head is part of hunting.. Hunters ed teaching? No sir! There is no law that says you can't display your animal. They teach alot of stuff that I don't agree with. So following what they teach is a real grey area. They teach not to shoot running game. I disagree, it can be done.. They teach dont take long shots. Again, I disagree..When are we as hunters going to quit hiding te fact that we are in blatant terms Killers, some may like it and SOME never will..I sat in bumper to bumper traffic in LA with a bug bull rack up on my tool box a few years ago, I had families getting out of their cars to take photots of their kids with the elk antlers. Lots of them. How many kids would of never got that chance in a big city if I had hid the antlers from view???You will never satisfy everyone. Never...Respectfully RT, you're the one missing the point. Anti-hunters only comprise about 10% of our population +/-. Total non-hunters comprise 96% of the population. That means there is about 86% of the population who don't hunt but don't oppose hunting...yet. No one here is trying to convince the antis of anything. But, what we do need to do is keep the remaining 86% of non-hunters supporting hunting as an ethical activity which benefits wildlife through conservation, the hunter through providing meat and the ability to pursue a hunting heritage and tradition, and the general public by providing the tools necessary to control and regulate wildlife populations in a way that keeps them healthy and limits societies exposure to problem and/or dangerous wildlife because of overpopulation.Get your back up all you want and it'll hurt us. It already has with the hounding/baiting ban. Hunters stood firm and blustered and lost. Privileges can be taken away as soon as the one allowing the privilege no longer sees a need for it; in this case, the general public. Take Starbucks. They allowed open carry in their stores for years in direct opposition to pleas from the antis to stop it. A few over-zealous *censored*s who decided that going for coffee with an AR-15 on their shoulder was a good idea, upset store employees and other customers enough that the company changed its policy and took that privilege away from open carriers. Go ahead and blame Starbucks or the antis. The end result is that we lost our privilege to open carry at a nationally huge private business. The exact same will happen with hunting unless we all start caring about more than our own egos.
Quote from: thinkingman on October 22, 2013, 03:44:47 PMQuote from: bradslam on October 22, 2013, 12:03:38 PMAs some others have stated, this is about being respectful...to the animal and to others who don't share your views. When I see a fellow hunter strap an animal's head to the front of their car and parade around, I merely see someone who needs their ego stroked. I have never liked it and think it portrays hunters in a bad light. I have even seen guys with doe heads tied to the front of their vehicle, complete with tongues hanging out. Tell me how that will improve our image.When some have commented on public opinion, others on here have had the attitude of, "Screw it, we'll never change their mind anyway!" Yes, that may be true of those at the extreme end of the spectrum, but the most important group is the huge majority in the middle. They will be the ones who decide our future. Quit doing things that will turn them against us.Absolutely agree.Well said.Alot of you are missing the point. Here is the issue with anti's.. They don't like and never will like the fact that we hunters KILL any animals. You are never going to change their mind. Never, no matter what we do.. Showing a deer head is part of hunting.. Hunters ed teaching? No sir! There is no law that says you can't display your animal. They teach alot of stuff that I don't agree with. So following what they teach is a real grey area. They teach not to shoot running game. I disagree, it can be done.. They teach dont take long shots. Again, I disagree..When are we as hunters going to quit hiding te fact that we are in blatant terms Killers, some may like it and SOME never will..I sat in bumper to bumper traffic in LA with a bug bull rack up on my tool box a few years ago, I had families getting out of their cars to take photots of their kids with the elk antlers. Lots of them. How many kids would of never got that chance in a big city if I had hid the antlers from view???You will never satisfy everyone. Never...
Quote from: bradslam on October 22, 2013, 12:03:38 PMAs some others have stated, this is about being respectful...to the animal and to others who don't share your views. When I see a fellow hunter strap an animal's head to the front of their car and parade around, I merely see someone who needs their ego stroked. I have never liked it and think it portrays hunters in a bad light. I have even seen guys with doe heads tied to the front of their vehicle, complete with tongues hanging out. Tell me how that will improve our image.When some have commented on public opinion, others on here have had the attitude of, "Screw it, we'll never change their mind anyway!" Yes, that may be true of those at the extreme end of the spectrum, but the most important group is the huge majority in the middle. They will be the ones who decide our future. Quit doing things that will turn them against us.Absolutely agree.Well said.
As some others have stated, this is about being respectful...to the animal and to others who don't share your views. When I see a fellow hunter strap an animal's head to the front of their car and parade around, I merely see someone who needs their ego stroked. I have never liked it and think it portrays hunters in a bad light. I have even seen guys with doe heads tied to the front of their vehicle, complete with tongues hanging out. Tell me how that will improve our image.When some have commented on public opinion, others on here have had the attitude of, "Screw it, we'll never change their mind anyway!" Yes, that may be true of those at the extreme end of the spectrum, but the most important group is the huge majority in the middle. They will be the ones who decide our future. Quit doing things that will turn them against us.
I'm simply not sure that hiding our sport is in our best interest, I don't know, neither do you. If we hide our kills will we get more votes in favor of keeping hunting?Can you actually change the minds of anyone by hiding our sport?I would suggest that we may need more exposure! Perhaps a buck on the hood is not the best first time exposure that we could provide to a non-hunter, but I doubt that it will be the demise of our sport. Perhaps the fact that most people quit displaying their animals has created an environment that has conditioned people to dislike seeing a dead animal. Perhaps hunters would all be better off and more accepted if all hunters displayed all their kills?Just posing the questions, I don't know, but that is a possibility.
I disagree! We did not lose bear baiting and hound hunting because of egos or hunters parading their game. We lost because the opposition numbers were greater than the hunters. Welcome to Washington state.. Had nothing to do with how hunters are perceived... QuoteIt had everything to do with the perception that the sport was cruel. Aren't hunters then a part of that?
It had everything to do with the perception that the sport was cruel. Aren't hunters then a part of that?
RT, you absolutely, 100% do not get it...... *"We lost because the opposition numbers were greater than the hunters."*So lets do all we can to INCREASE those numbers.You missed the point about starbucks, it's not about "you", its about other people also, stop thinking so singuler.So you think that hunting or forms of hunting could never be banned in this state...... Denile is not just a river in egypt.
Nobody is saying hide. All anyone is saying is conduct yourself in a manner that is respectful to those around you. Bone showed the perfect example.........he sure isn't hiding anything yet he is conducting himself in a respectful manner.
Quote from: Buckmark on October 23, 2013, 09:00:57 AMRT, you absolutely, 100% do not get it...... *"We lost because the opposition numbers were greater than the hunters."*So lets do all we can to INCREASE those numbers.You missed the point about starbucks, it's not about "you", its about other people also, stop thinking so singuler.So you think that hunting or forms of hunting could never be banned in this state...... Denile is not just a river in egypt.Ha ha. No you dont get it!!! Hunters will never outnumber non hunters in this state. Anyone can see that.. Well almost anyone... You me or anyone else will not change that. They didnt ban hounds or bait because of someone showing off a bear on their bumper.. They banned it because they think its cruel..Once again, the hunter KILLED The bear!! Thats the part they do not agree with.. So get your facts straight!!Keep hiding in the closet! That works wonders I bet... Singular??? Wow, I could care less about starbucks. No, I didnt miss the point...Why is it ok for every group to stand up to those against their belief? But we hunters try to get others to hide? Why why why?
