I record in my journal when I see bucks running does. This is not bucks with does, but nose to the ground trailing. It is a very short time frame, in the last ten years during the time of November 19-23. I know you will find bucks with swollen necks, stink etc over a much greater time frame, well into December, but that is when I see in the day time, active rutting behavior, in the Deer Park, Clayton area. My son who archery hunts most years feels the week after modern late buck is the best time to hunt. That time is now closed to archery hunting here, used to be open. There is a reason the season is closed in most areas to most weapon choices, between November 20 to 24.