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bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« on: November 02, 2013, 03:26:37 PM »
Got a laugh when I opened the box and saw this, sent an email to Barnes about it




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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2013, 03:28:19 PM »
It looks like it has been around for a while.

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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2013, 03:28:54 PM »
that is first time I have seen that.

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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2013, 03:29:50 PM »
that is first time I have seen that.

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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2013, 03:30:42 PM »
You didn't know that is the new terrorist ammo Obumbles is supplying them with..........  :chuckle:
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2013, 04:12:52 PM »
Wondered why the one round was so much lower in the case, turned it over and found this


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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2013, 04:18:34 PM »
Wow, that's crazy. It looks allot like a Robertson family reload :chuckle:

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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2013, 04:22:44 PM »
I think they thought you had a lever gun!

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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2013, 04:26:26 PM »
Someone's trying to pull our leg here  :chuckle:





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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2013, 04:29:24 PM »
Wad cutter?...
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2013, 04:33:31 PM »

That brass looks like it has stretch marks ?   Looks like a reload  :twocents:
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2013, 04:44:15 PM »
It looks like it has been around for a while.
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2013, 06:53:07 PM »
That's actually no BS, how I bought it. Does Barnes reuse fired cases for their VOR-TX?

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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2013, 07:02:39 PM »
Barnes bullets are so good you can load them backwards.................... :yike:

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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2013, 07:08:14 PM »
Polish spitzer quite popular in country
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2013, 07:12:20 PM »
I think I remember reading where Peter Hathaway Capstick (famous elephant cropping officer and author) would pull soft points from live ammo and put them back in backwards so they performed more like a Full metal jacket for big, heavy, deadly game.
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2013, 09:00:26 PM »
I read an article once about a guy that purposely loaded some ammo with the bullets backwards to see if there was a difference in accuracy.  NO DIFFERENCE!  :dunno:
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2013, 09:12:58 PM »
I read an article once about a guy that purposely loaded some ammo with the bullets backwards to see if there was a difference in accuracy.  NO DIFFERENCE!  :dunno:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot50.htm

Might not be the one you read, but same experiment and same result

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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2013, 09:17:47 PM »
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2013, 09:22:54 PM »
I read an article once about a guy that purposely loaded some ammo with the bullets backwards to see if there was a difference in accuracy.  NO DIFFERENCE!  :dunno:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot50.htm

Might not be the one you read, but same experiment and same result

Not the article I read, but pretty much the same result.  Also saw a high-speed photo of a Spitzer bullet half way to the target.  At that speed, the air molecules had the tip of the bullet reshaped to a round-nosed bullet...
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2013, 09:35:26 PM »
I was practicing with one of my ARs and round that was a mis-fire and totally jacked the b/c up. It was seriously locked up and it took a hammer to get the charging handle to budge. When I got it apart the primer had blown out of the brass..... No flash hole in the brass.
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2013, 08:02:02 AM »
They load that way a lot more often than you would think but usually caught in quality check

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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2013, 01:09:46 PM »
With so many employees going from full-time to part-time due to Obamacare, It's going to happen more often, too!
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2013, 01:14:31 PM »
Cutting Edge Bullets line of "Raptor ESP " bullets are actualy designed to be loaded in either orientation so they can be loaded as solids and as HP exapanders.

Amazing terminal performance.

https://cuttingedgebullets.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=ESP_C145_RAPTOR
Enhanced System Projectile (ESP) designed to be shot as a hollow point without the RAPTOR tip, a hollow point with the supplied RAPTOR tip installed for long range shooting, or flipped around and shot as a solid for extreme penetration. Excellent lever gun bullets without the tip installed and are designed to magazine feed in any bolt action rifle with the tip installed. The BBW#13 nose profile on both ends of the bullet has proven to provide the deepest penetration of any nose profile to date. When shot with or without the tip terminal performance is second to none for putting game on the ground quickly. BC is .140 shot without the tip and is .330 with the tip installed. This bullet is designed to be shot out of magnum rifles with the tip.� If a non-magnum rifle is used, the bullet MUST BE SHOT WITHOUT THE TIP in order to stabilize.� A minimum barrel twist rate of 1-10" or faster is also required to stabilize this bullet.

RAPTOR tips are supplied for each bullet. Load development can be done without the tip and point of impact at 100 yards is normally within 1" when the tip is installed.


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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2013, 01:54:52 PM »
exit wound from a raptor loaded HP end first...  (one shot...)
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2013, 05:50:21 PM »
All the polymer-tipped bullets are is hollow points with a polymer insert.  If you can find "Zombie" bullets at a good price, I wouldn't hesitate to buy them--all they are is the regular bullet with a green insert instead of red or dark red.  I can't picture bullet makers making a special bullet for the "Zombie Craze"...  :dunno:
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2013, 06:04:51 PM »
I think they thought you had a lever gun!


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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2013, 06:07:02 PM »
All the polymer-tipped bullets are is hollow points with a polymer insert.  If you can find "Zombie" bullets at a good price, I wouldn't hesitate to buy them--all they are is the regular bullet with a green insert instead of red or dark red.  I can't picture bullet makers making a special bullet for the "Zombie Craze"...  :dunno:
you sure about that ..? Hornaday SST has a polymer tip ... its not a hollow point ..it a solid base bullet ...or am I misunderstanding what your saying ....Nosler ballistic tips are hollow with a polymer tip !

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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2013, 06:09:23 PM »
I would be a little upset if I opened a new box of ammo and the brass looked like that. Either the OP is pulling our leg or someone played a trick on him. I doubt this came from the factory.
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2013, 06:34:20 PM »
All the polymer-tipped bullets are is hollow points with a polymer insert.  If you can find "Zombie" bullets at a good price, I wouldn't hesitate to buy them--all they are is the regular bullet with a green insert instead of red or dark red.  I can't picture bullet makers making a special bullet for the "Zombie Craze"...  :dunno:
you sure about that ..? Hornaday SST has a polymer tip ... its not a hollow point ..it a solid base bullet ...or am I misunderstanding what your saying ....Nosler ballistic tips are hollow with a polymer tip !

Not familiar with Hornady SST's  Never used any.  The Hornady V-Max and the Noslers are similar.  The Noslers might be Boat-tails--Can't remember without looking...  :sry:
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2013, 06:38:44 PM »
All the polymer-tipped bullets are is hollow points with a polymer insert.  If you can find "Zombie" bullets at a good price, I wouldn't hesitate to buy them--all they are is the regular bullet with a green insert instead of red or dark red.  I can't picture bullet makers making a special bullet for the "Zombie Craze"...  :dunno:
you sure about that ..? Hornaday SST has a polymer tip ... its not a hollow point ..it a solid base bullet ...or am I misunderstanding what your saying ....Nosler ballistic tips are hollow with a polymer tip !

Not familiar with Hornady SST's  Never used any.  The Hornady V-Max and the Noslers are similar.  The Noslers might be Boat-tails--Can't remember without looking...  :sry:
Just clarifying ...  :tup:

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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2013, 06:43:13 PM »
All the polymer-tipped bullets are is hollow points with a polymer insert.  If you can find "Zombie" bullets at a good price, I wouldn't hesitate to buy them--all they are is the regular bullet with a green insert instead of red or dark red.  I can't picture bullet makers making a special bullet for the "Zombie Craze"...  :dunno:
you sure about that ..? Hornaday SST has a polymer tip ... its not a hollow point ..it a solid base bullet ...or am I misunderstanding what your saying ....Nosler ballistic tips are hollow with a polymer tip !

Not familiar with Hornady SST's  Never used any.  The Hornady V-Max and the Noslers are similar.  The Noslers might be Boat-tails--Can't remember without looking...  :sry:
Just clarifying ...  :tup:

No problem.  The more you know about reloading, the more you find that you DON'T know!
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2013, 06:46:42 PM »
All the polymer-tipped bullets are is hollow points with a polymer insert.  If you can find "Zombie" bullets at a good price, I wouldn't hesitate to buy them--all they are is the regular bullet with a green insert instead of red or dark red.  I can't picture bullet makers making a special bullet for the "Zombie Craze"...  :dunno:
you sure about that ..? Hornaday SST has a polymer tip ... its not a hollow point ..it a solid base bullet ...or am I misunderstanding what your saying ....Nosler ballistic tips are hollow with a polymer tip !

Not familiar with Hornady SST's  Never used any.  The Hornady V-Max and the Noslers are similar.  The Noslers might be Boat-tails--Can't remember without looking...  :sry:
Hornady Zombie Max bullets are also a lighter grain. They are critical defense rounds with a different color tip. the pistol rounds that is. I know the box of .308 ammo I had shot well. just a lighter bullet.
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Re: bullet seated upside down in factory ammo
« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2013, 06:54:52 PM »
All the polymer-tipped bullets are is hollow points with a polymer insert.  If you can find "Zombie" bullets at a good price, I wouldn't hesitate to buy them--all they are is the regular bullet with a green insert instead of red or dark red.  I can't picture bullet makers making a special bullet for the "Zombie Craze"...  :dunno:
you sure about that ..? Hornaday SST has a polymer tip ... its not a hollow point ..it a solid base bullet ...or am I misunderstanding what your saying ....Nosler ballistic tips are hollow with a polymer tip !

Not familiar with Hornady SST's  Never used any.  The Hornady V-Max and the Noslers are similar.  The Noslers might be Boat-tails--Can't remember without looking...  :sry:
Hornaday Zombie Max bullets are also a lighter grain. They are critical defense rounds with a different color tip. the pistol rounds that is. I know the box of .308 ammo I had shot well. just a lighter bullet.

The bullets I'm familiar with are the .17, .20, .22, and 450 Bushmaster.  (Actually a pistol .45 bullet)  The V-Max types are a light, fast varmint bullet.  I still can't believe they'd make a special bullet for Zombies!  :chuckle:
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