Blues News 2013

[idahohuntr]

There land?  It's PUBLIC LAND, they might have the permit to guide, but have no right treating everyday people that are in there like they are trespassing!  (Speaking from experience over the years)

I don't think there is any indication that mtncook treats anybody like they are trespassing...usually the opposite.  I know my father in law and his buddy (with a Wenaha East bull tag) packed in with 6 of their mules this year and ran into mtncook...nothing but good things to say about him.  I believe he or his wife even took some pictures/video for them as they rode out with their bull.

[JackOfAllTrades]

Brought out the last Quality Tag holder client today.  He spent the whole season in camp by himself.  Said he had no friends to spend 14 days with.  As the result he came out empty not because of no friends but partly trying such a job by himself. 
mtncook

I'd have become his friend in a heartbeat!  How could anyone pay, stay in camp with a quality permit burning a hole in a pocket and not at least go out and try? I'm guessing this was a drop camp? Not a guided hunt? 'Solo' hunting for a bull wouldn't be easy, especially when it was time to recover a downed animal. -So.. I don't know the full story, if they guy's 80 or what... but why apply for a tag like that and not be able to hunt?
 
-Steve
 
 

[Limhangerslayer]

 What is so funny people jumping on one side without knowing any of the story.   I've hunted with this so called "ROGUE" guide for a dozen years or so.   The big Blues bull from last year the guy shot  with a drop time during archery season last year that he " guided"  was one of his best friends from school.   And the muzzy bull most people don't know about last year was another buddies son.  I guess he is also “guiding" in the yakima area too,  they shot a 330  plus bull  in archery season.   He does this because he gets  six weeks vacation a year and uses every bit of it in the woods,  and does it because he loves it if he had the tag or somebody  else.

[Easy-E]

I guess I'm a Rogue, too, then. I've "guided" at least 3 of my friends to watershed bulls. And would/will do it again simply for the love of that unit and the thrill of being a part of something epic.

I don't take money, but I sure don't turn down a cold brew or three after the packing a done. That's not considered payment, is it?!?

Cheers!

[jackelope]

What is so funny people jumping on one side without knowing any of the story.   I've hunted with this so called "ROGUE" guide for a dozen years or so.   The big Blues bull from last year the guy shot  with a drop time during archery season last year that he " guided"  was one of his best friends from school.   And the muzzy bull most people don't know about last year was another buddies son.  I guess he is also “guiding" in the yakima area too,  they shot a 330  plus bull  in archery season.   He does this because he gets  six weeks vacation a year and uses every bit of it in the woods,  and does it because he loves it if he had the tag or somebody  else.

but he has a guiding business with a name and calls himself a guide. If hes not "guiding" then why does he have a guiding business?

[rosscrazyelk]

well since it is the internet and all . the info is out there you just need to look.. Tell me why would someone send pics to a place advertising they own a new business? it sure is not because he is doing it for free.
http://www.monstermuleys.com/photos/PhotosID32/36.html

[JM]

I'm not putting down mtncooks business. I'm sure he's does a great job, I know the guy he is putting down has used him before and said that he did a great job. I really didn't intend to thread jack as you guys say, but I posted before I thought about how it would snow ball on the internet.

Since we're on the subject though I'd like to add that if taking someone hunting is illegal than most of us on here are criminals. I took a friend on the high buck hunt and he bought me a beer when we got out so fine me. If my life allowed me to I'd spend every day I could in the backcountry taking people hunting.

I have no problem with licensed outfitters being the only ones who can accept money for their services. I couldn't imagine what it would be like in the woods if it were a free for all! It is OUR land and OUR game though isn't it? I just read a thread on here about Hatton rd in Cowiche and how the landowners have to let us in because it's public land behind the gate and they have no right blocking it off. This kind of seems like the same thing here, outfitters don't own the animals and they can stick it where the sun doesn't shine if they try and tell me I can't take people huntng! If a person isn't receiving any money for their service then relax and don't take personal jabs at people because you assume they are breaking the law. I don't want to put words in someones mouth but I'm pretty sure that if anyone on here drew a bull or buck tag for the blues and wanted to harvest a trophy animal free of charge he would be glad to take them, because that's what he is about.

I guess I can see where your frustration is coming from mtncook, because I would feel threatened as well if he were hunting in my area due to the fact that he knows that area and the animals there better than most of know our homes.(just look at his pictures)

[rosscrazyelk]

I have no problem with people helping friends but I would not call my friends CLIENTS.
http://www.monstermuleys.com/photos/PhotosID32/138.html

And the truth shall set you free

[JM]

He's not sketchy at all. He's one of the better guys I know and I think he is putting the cart a little before the horse by giving himself a name before he has a business. If you want to start a guiding business though and be able to charge large amounts of money right out of the gate, then you'd be way ahead if you already had a bunch of harvest pictures. Pretty brilliant if you ask me. You just have to put up with sour people who always assume the worst of people before they think that he really might be a legit person trying to get ahead.

[rosscrazyelk]

But he will never get a guiding permit for that area I will guarantee.

[JM]

But he will never get a guiding permit for that area I will guarantee.

Do you personally hand out licenses for areas?? You must because you are very adiment about this. Like I said earlier he's not breaking the law and is a great guy that will do anything for anyone at the drop of a hat

[Limhangerslayer]

I have no problem with people helping friends but I would not call my friends CLIENTS.
http://www.monstermuleys.com/photos/PhotosID32/138.html

And the truth shall set you free

You aren't preaching without a license are  you?  Bottom line, he isn't charging so he elk never be caught since he isn't doing anything wrong.

 Mtncook,  back to the original thread.  Sounds like a good season,  can't wait to see the pics.

[rosscrazyelk]

I have no problem with people helping friends but I would not call my friends CLIENTS.
http://www.monstermuleys.com/photos/PhotosID32/138.html

And the truth shall set you free

You aren't preaching without a license are  you?  Bottom line, he isn't charging so he elk never be caught since he isn't doing anything wrong.

 Mtncook,  back to the original thread.  Sounds like a good season,  can't wait to see the pics.

Not really sure  Where you are trying to go with that ...
If he has not taken a dime good for him.   He is above reproach then.  I
Have heard he is s animal and a fantastic hunter.  That's great.  I just hope when his future clients see his past success  they don't get to mad when he can't take them to the blues. . Wish him well

[rosscrazyelk]

But he will never get a guiding permit for that area I will guarantee.

Do you personally hand out licenses for areas?? You must because you are very adiment about this. Like I said earlier he's not breaking the law and is a great guy that will do anything for anyone at the drop of a hat

No I do not.  But the forest service has rules.  There is already a licensed /permitted outfitter in that area So there is no way your buddy will get one for there.  Sorry that is just how the rules are

[jackmaster]

is the only way to get a permit is if mtncook sales it? i use to want to get a hearing license but its the same thing, you can only grt one if someone sales you theres. i hope trophyhunt draws that tag for where mtncook hunts, trophy is an animal himself when it comes to elk huntn, i couldnt imagine the elk he and mtncook could drum up