Dispatching trapped animals without a firearm

[Smossy]

-If we're taking the trapping class together and essentially trapping together.. the animals that need-be dispatched with a firearm would be my job, no?  no idea why this is just now coming to mind.

Well if YOU want to do the dispatching sure, I never imagined you would want to be that one though. Can get a .22 rifle for like $200 bucks.

[paytonma]

im wondering how the co2 thing would be any different than drowning an animal its kind of the same idea i mean its your opinion and im not trying to be a jerk it just seems like the same difference to me? 

The whole idea behind the Co2 on land animals is it seems like air. It is minus O2. They can breath normally so no panic sets in. The AVMA does approve of it as a humane method of dispatch so it is not just my opinion.

ahhh didnt think of it that way makes sense 

[Humptulips]

Smossy,
I know drowning sounds a little harsh to the unintiated. For water animals though it is a little different then most people imagine. Back before cage traps I used to occasionally get a live one. You would push them out into deep water and it might take 15 minutes for them to drown. 12 of those minutes they would just be hiding. Water is their element and they are not worried a bit about being under water. At the very last they try to surface and when they can't a very short struggle ensues, they pass out and then you better leave them under for a while their body slowly relaxes.
Land animals though are a different thing. I put this question to some experienced profesionals, one of them being a DVM and it sounds like your best bet for land animals would be a high powered pellet gun. Lethal injection on large animals sounds like a bit much for the average person. Co2 is going to be inconvenient in most situations. Sooner or later you're going to want to try for a cat and shooting is the best choice for you on them.

I looked up the law on Felons and firearms. I see where you are correct on being able to have an air rifle. The reason I questioned it is I know it is not neccesarily like that in other states. I'd say shop for a good air rifle.

You know what would suffice as something decent? I have 3 of them but I dont think Id use any of them to dispatch an animal, They're kinda weak IMO
Maybe a break barrel around 1000fps? I do want some cats, no doubt.

Here's a question for you, what time of animal digs holes roughly the thickness of a 2 liter bottle, and you can find 100's of holes next to eachother. We ran across this on the side of a hill, They were dug horizontally into the side of a small hill, all of them being roughly a few feet apart but on one hill I know I counted around 40 holes. Was in thick wooded area, Any idea?

Score!!!!!!!!!!!!! Excellent location for a bobcat to show up. They love mountain beavers and will be hunting it regularly. Now all you need is a trap and a license.

Ok cool, will they explain different traps to use for different species of animals? Ive already got two of these.

Yep, we'll have different kinds of traps and talk about what works best for different animals.

[Smossy]

Smossy,
I know drowning sounds a little harsh to the unintiated. For water animals though it is a little different then most people imagine. Back before cage traps I used to occasionally get a live one. You would push them out into deep water and it might take 15 minutes for them to drown. 12 of those minutes they would just be hiding. Water is their element and they are not worried a bit about being under water. At the very last they try to surface and when they can't a very short struggle ensues, they pass out and then you better leave them under for a while their body slowly relaxes.
Land animals though are a different thing. I put this question to some experienced profesionals, one of them being a DVM and it sounds like your best bet for land animals would be a high powered pellet gun. Lethal injection on large animals sounds like a bit much for the average person. Co2 is going to be inconvenient in most situations. Sooner or later you're going to want to try for a cat and shooting is the best choice for you on them.

I looked up the law on Felons and firearms. I see where you are correct on being able to have an air rifle. The reason I questioned it is I know it is not neccesarily like that in other states. I'd say shop for a good air rifle.

You know what would suffice as something decent? I have 3 of them but I dont think Id use any of them to dispatch an animal, They're kinda weak IMO
Maybe a break barrel around 1000fps? I do want some cats, no doubt.

Here's a question for you, what time of animal digs holes roughly the thickness of a 2 liter bottle, and you can find 100's of holes next to eachother. We ran across this on the side of a hill, They were dug horizontally into the side of a small hill, all of them being roughly a few feet apart but on one hill I know I counted around 40 holes. Was in thick wooded area, Any idea?

Score!!!!!!!!!!!!! Excellent location for a bobcat to show up. They love mountain beavers and will be hunting it regularly. Now all you need is a trap and a license.

Ok cool, will they explain different traps to use for different species of animals? Ive already got two of these.

Yep, we'll have different kinds of traps and talk about what works best for different animals.

Ok awesome, Looking forward to this.

[ICEMAN]

Well, after you take the trapping course, I'm sure you'll realize how easy and humane a drowning death really is.
But until then;

Pellet gun idea....   http://gamowhisper.com/

These guns are intense... atleast 1200 fps, and they have a built in suppressor.
So nobody knows you're using it!   

They work great on lots of stuff. Otters, skunk, weasel, Opossum, cat, Racoons, and even big feral dogs, no problem, 1 shot.
They are just like a rifle, it's all about bullet placement. Right behind or in the ear canal.

Is this legal?

[Smossy]

Well, after you take the trapping course, I'm sure you'll realize how easy and humane a drowning death really is.
But until then;

Pellet gun idea....   http://gamowhisper.com/

These guns are intense... atleast 1200 fps, and they have a built in suppressor.
So nobody knows you're using it!   

They work great on lots of stuff. Otters, skunk, weasel, Opossum, cat, Racoons, and even big feral dogs, no problem, 1 shot.
They are just like a rifle, it's all about bullet placement. Right behind or in the ear canal.

Is this legal?

Is what legal? The pellet gun? Sure it is.
.22 caliber, 32 grain pellet @ 1000+ fps = 71.1 ft-lbs of muzzle energy. Thats plenty.

[pnwmtnmn]

Air guns are legal for dispatch, but they are not for actual hunting. although they are capable of taking small game and birds.

[Blacktail Sniper]

Smossy,

Just found this thread, and thought I would toss out some info I have if you are still considering an air rifle.

I have a Remington Model RW1K77, .177 cal.  I found it at Cabela's Bargain Cave for just over $100.00 w/scope.  On-line, depending where I looked it gave MV rating of 1000 -1300 FPS.

What that translated to in real world performance is complete penetration with a lead, .177 cal pellet through a 1/2" sheet of plywood at a paced off 35 yards.

A .22 of close to velocity, at basically, end of muzzle range should be more than adequate.

I added a picture of a bobby I trapped wayyy back when legholds could be used.  If you look between the nose and the eye, you can see where I shot it it with a pistol shooting .22 Long Rifle, no exit out back, and if it had been any place else like on the top of the head, there would have been no mark at all.

A .22 air rifle should be no different than this.  Hope this helps.

[Smossy]

Smossy,

Just found this thread, and thought I would toss out some info I have if you are still considering an air rifle.

I have a Remington Model RW1K77, .177 cal.  I found it at Cabela's Bargain Cave for just over $100.00 w/scope.  On-line, depending where I looked it gave MV rating of 1000 -1300 FPS.

What that translated to in real world performance is complete penetration with a lead, .177 cal pellet through a 1/2" sheet of plywood at a paced off 35 yards.

A .22 of close to velocity, at basically, end of muzzle range should be more than adequate.

I added a picture of a bobby I trapped wayyy back when legholds could be used.  If you look between the nose and the eye, you can see where I shot it it with a pistol shooting .22 Long Rifle, no exit out back, and if it had been any place else like on the top of the head, there would have been no mark at all.

A .22 air rifle should be no different than this.  Hope this helps.

Picture no worky.

[Blacktail Sniper]

Fixed now....

[TeacherMan]

big stick 

[Blue]

A choke pole works great. It's all I use on bobcats.