Dispatching trapped animals without a firearm

[3nails]

 Kinda the same thing but I know where you are coming from. When I catch a mink (which are usually dry sets) I'll pitch the cage in the drink and move on to other traps. Come back on the way out and grab dead mink. I can't/won't sit and watch.

[Smossy]

Kinda the same thing but I know where you are coming from. When I catch a mink (which are usually dry sets) I'll pitch the cage in the drink and move on to other traps. Come back on the way out and grab dead mink. I can't/won't sit and watch.

Yeah, makes sense. I dont know, atleast this is where I stand now. Things may/probably will change as time goes by.. Taking the trapping class Dec 7th with my girl. Excited to get into something new. "As if hunting isn't new enough" Just like the idea of somewhat relying on the land and eating stuff as natural as it comes.

[Humptulips]

I could be wrong but I don't think a choke pole or any other type of "snare" or "body gripping device" is legal to dispatch a trapped animal, heck, come to think of it, since a dog is a "non-human vertebrate" it's illegal for a dog catcher to use a choke pole (snare) to capture a dog. Hmm. What do you think of this logic Bruce:)

Technically you are probably right but I doubt anyone is getting a ticket for using a catch pole.

[Humptulips]

Smossy,
I know drowning sounds a little harsh to the unintiated. For water animals though it is a little different then most people imagine. Back before cage traps I used to occasionally get a live one. You would push them out into deep water and it might take 15 minutes for them to drown. 12 of those minutes they would just be hiding. Water is their element and they are not worried a bit about being under water. At the very last they try to surface and when they can't a very short struggle ensues, they pass out and then you better leave them under for a while their body slowly relaxes.
Land animals though are a different thing. I put this question to some experienced profesionals, one of them being a DVM and it sounds like your best bet for land animals would be a high powered pellet gun. Lethal injection on large animals sounds like a bit much for the average person. Co2 is going to be inconvenient in most situations. Sooner or later you're going to want to try for a cat and shooting is the best choice for you on them.

I looked up the law on Felons and firearms. I see where you are correct on being able to have an air rifle. The reason I questioned it is I know it is not neccesarily like that in other states. I'd say shop for a good air rifle.

[Smossy]

Smossy,
I know drowning sounds a little harsh to the unintiated. For water animals though it is a little different then most people imagine. Back before cage traps I used to occasionally get a live one. You would push them out into deep water and it might take 15 minutes for them to drown. 12 of those minutes they would just be hiding. Water is their element and they are not worried a bit about being under water. At the very last they try to surface and when they can't a very short struggle ensues, they pass out and then you better leave them under for a while their body slowly relaxes.
Land animals though are a different thing. I put this question to some experienced profesionals, one of them being a DVM and it sounds like your best bet for land animals would be a high powered pellet gun. Lethal injection on large animals sounds like a bit much for the average person. Co2 is going to be inconvenient in most situations. Sooner or later you're going to want to try for a cat and shooting is the best choice for you on them.

I looked up the law on Felons and firearms. I see where you are correct on being able to have an air rifle. The reason I questioned it is I know it is not neccesarily like that in other states. I'd say shop for a good air rifle.

You know what would suffice as something decent? I have 3 of them but I dont think Id use any of them to dispatch an animal, They're kinda weak IMO
Maybe a break barrel around 1000fps? I do want some cats, no doubt.

Here's a question for you, what time of animal digs holes roughly the thickness of a 2 liter bottle, and you can find 100's of holes next to eachother. We ran across this on the side of a hill, They were dug horizontally into the side of a small hill, all of them being roughly a few feet apart but on one hill I know I counted around 40 holes. Was in thick wooded area, Any idea?

[Curly]

Mountain beaver 

http://wdfw.wa.gov/living/mtn_beavers.html

As far as pellet gun for dispatch, I'd say 22 cal pump or break action.

[Smossy]

Mountain beaver 

http://wdfw.wa.gov/living/mtn_beavers.html

As far as pellet gun for dispatch, I'd say 22 cal pump or break action.

Agreed.

Good find on that mountain beaver, That may actually be it. Maybe Im on to something here, good place to practice my trapping skeels Now to just learn how to set traps. Cant wait for December to roll around! Once hunting season is over, Its on to trapping.

[paytonma]

im wondering how the co2 thing would be any different than drowning an animal its kind of the same idea i mean its your opinion and im not trying to be a jerk it just seems like the same difference to me? 

[Humptulips]

im wondering how the co2 thing would be any different than drowning an animal its kind of the same idea i mean its your opinion and im not trying to be a jerk it just seems like the same difference to me? 

The whole idea behind the Co2 on land animals is it seems like air. It is minus O2. They can breath normally so no panic sets in. The AVMA does approve of it as a humane method of dispatch so it is not just my opinion.

[Humptulips]

Smossy,
I know drowning sounds a little harsh to the unintiated. For water animals though it is a little different then most people imagine. Back before cage traps I used to occasionally get a live one. You would push them out into deep water and it might take 15 minutes for them to drown. 12 of those minutes they would just be hiding. Water is their element and they are not worried a bit about being under water. At the very last they try to surface and when they can't a very short struggle ensues, they pass out and then you better leave them under for a while their body slowly relaxes.
Land animals though are a different thing. I put this question to some experienced profesionals, one of them being a DVM and it sounds like your best bet for land animals would be a high powered pellet gun. Lethal injection on large animals sounds like a bit much for the average person. Co2 is going to be inconvenient in most situations. Sooner or later you're going to want to try for a cat and shooting is the best choice for you on them.

I looked up the law on Felons and firearms. I see where you are correct on being able to have an air rifle. The reason I questioned it is I know it is not neccesarily like that in other states. I'd say shop for a good air rifle.

You know what would suffice as something decent? I have 3 of them but I dont think Id use any of them to dispatch an animal, They're kinda weak IMO
Maybe a break barrel around 1000fps? I do want some cats, no doubt.

Here's a question for you, what time of animal digs holes roughly the thickness of a 2 liter bottle, and you can find 100's of holes next to eachother. We ran across this on the side of a hill, They were dug horizontally into the side of a small hill, all of them being roughly a few feet apart but on one hill I know I counted around 40 holes. Was in thick wooded area, Any idea?

Score!!!!!!!!!!!!! Excellent location for a bobcat to show up. They love mountain beavers and will be hunting it regularly. Now all you need is a trap and a license.

[Machias]

While growing up in MO, I trapped alot of red fox.  I would tap them across the nose with a small stick and knock them out.  Amazing how little of a hit it took to knock them out and then I would stand on their chest and crush their heart.  No holes, no blood and it was quick!

[billythekidrock]

While growing up in MO, I trapped alot of red fox.  I would tap them across the nose with a small stick and knock them out.  Amazing how little of a hit it took to knock them out and then I would stand on their chest and crush their heart.  No holes, no blood and it was quick!

 
Works on coyotes too. I wouldn't recommend it, but it works.

[BiggLuke]

Well, after you take the trapping course, I'm sure you'll realize how easy and humane a drowning death really is.
But until then;

Pellet gun idea....   http://gamowhisper.com/

These guns are intense... atleast 1200 fps, and they have a built in suppressor.
So nobody knows you're using it!   

They work great on lots of stuff. Otters, skunk, weasel, Opossum, cat, Racoons, and even big feral dogs, no problem, 1 shot.
They are just like a rifle, it's all about bullet placement. Right behind or in the ear canal.

[Becky]

-If we're taking the trapping class together and essentially trapping together.. the animals that need-be dispatched with a firearm would be my job, no?  no idea why this is just now coming to mind.

[Smossy]

Smossy,
I know drowning sounds a little harsh to the unintiated. For water animals though it is a little different then most people imagine. Back before cage traps I used to occasionally get a live one. You would push them out into deep water and it might take 15 minutes for them to drown. 12 of those minutes they would just be hiding. Water is their element and they are not worried a bit about being under water. At the very last they try to surface and when they can't a very short struggle ensues, they pass out and then you better leave them under for a while their body slowly relaxes.
Land animals though are a different thing. I put this question to some experienced profesionals, one of them being a DVM and it sounds like your best bet for land animals would be a high powered pellet gun. Lethal injection on large animals sounds like a bit much for the average person. Co2 is going to be inconvenient in most situations. Sooner or later you're going to want to try for a cat and shooting is the best choice for you on them.

I looked up the law on Felons and firearms. I see where you are correct on being able to have an air rifle. The reason I questioned it is I know it is not neccesarily like that in other states. I'd say shop for a good air rifle.

You know what would suffice as something decent? I have 3 of them but I dont think Id use any of them to dispatch an animal, They're kinda weak IMO
Maybe a break barrel around 1000fps? I do want some cats, no doubt.

Here's a question for you, what time of animal digs holes roughly the thickness of a 2 liter bottle, and you can find 100's of holes next to eachother. We ran across this on the side of a hill, They were dug horizontally into the side of a small hill, all of them being roughly a few feet apart but on one hill I know I counted around 40 holes. Was in thick wooded area, Any idea?

Score!!!!!!!!!!!!! Excellent location for a bobcat to show up. They love mountain beavers and will be hunting it regularly. Now all you need is a trap and a license.

Ok cool, will they explain different traps to use for different species of animals? Ive already got two of these.