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Offline tluns

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Cascade blacktails
« on: November 18, 2013, 03:23:43 PM »
Does anybody have any information on why the blacktail deer populations in the south central cascades has declined so badly? I've heard a lot about lack of clearcuts and high predation but I'm not buying it. The ridge I have hunted for 25 years declined badly about six years ago. There is still good feed that isn't being eaten and predators will eventually move out. The WDFW seems elusive when questioned.

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Re: Cascade blacktails
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2013, 03:32:53 PM »
Well it sounds like you already figured it out between timber practices and predator control being non existent that is what I have heard.
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Re: Cascade blacktails
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2013, 03:34:50 PM »
Usually everyones "go to" answer would be the tribes.  :dunno:

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Re: Cascade blacktails
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2013, 03:40:05 PM »
The old growth and reprod has been thinned significantly and there is plenty of forage. There aren't enough deer left to sustain many cougars. And how do I say this politically correct? The tribes won't harvest where the hunting has gotten hard.

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Re: Cascade blacktails
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 04:15:31 PM »
Imo its a combination of over hunting from both tribal and general, as well as lack of predator control. The FS ground definitely isn't being logged like it once was, but the tree farms are and neither seem to have good numbers, gotta be predation/man.......
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Re: Cascade blacktails
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2013, 04:38:44 PM »
Don't forget hair loss disease. It's had a big impact on blacktail deer populations.

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Re: Cascade blacktails
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2013, 05:14:08 PM »
And the wolves.

1-Tribes
2-Hair Loss Syndrome
3-Habitat loss.
4-Wolves
5-Lions
6-Tigers
7-Bears
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Re: Cascade blacktails
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 05:18:33 PM »
- #6 tigers  :chuckle:



preditors are an issue that  needs to be addressed ..,..... and never will.
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Re: Cascade blacktails
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 05:19:08 PM »
Oh my.
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Re: Cascade blacktails
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2013, 05:20:10 PM »
And the wolves.

1-Tribes
2-Hair Loss Syndrome
3-Habitat loss.
4-Wolves
5-Lions
6-Tigers
7-Bears


 :yeah: scratch out 6 because I have not seen to many around here and add coyotes and you got a winning list! :chuckle:
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Re: Cascade blacktails
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2013, 05:22:52 PM »
don't forget herbicides
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Re: Cascade blacktails
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2013, 05:26:31 PM »
And the wolves.

1-Tribes
2-Hair Loss Syndrome
3-Habitat loss.
4-Wolves
5-Lions
6-Tigers
7-Bears


 :yeah: scratch out 6 because I have not seen to many around here and add coyotes and you got a winning list! :chuckle:

It just sort of rolled off my tongue.
Oh well...dumb joke.
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Re: Cascade blacktails
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2013, 05:28:43 PM »
Either that or I want some of what you are having :chuckle:
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Re: Cascade blacktails
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2013, 05:34:49 PM »
if theyre in the cascades wouldnt they migrate? wouldnt that solve the food issue?  :dunno:

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Re: Cascade blacktails
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2013, 05:44:59 PM »
don't forget herbicides

 :yeah:   that's got to be one of the biggest factors in my opinion.

 


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