Obama and Bloomberg Use December 14 to Promote Gun Control

[huntrights]

Obama and Bloomberg Use December 14 to Promote Gun Control

http://cms.nraila.org/legislation/federal-legislation/2013/12/obama-and-bloomberg-use-december-14-to-promote-gun-control.aspx

[Ricochet]

[huntnphool]

Pretty telling isn't it!

[deltaops]

They say history repeats itself, I only hope not in this case! 

[rbinhood]

It's unfortunate that people have to adopt an "us against them" mentality when it comes to the issue of gun ownership or gun control. There are plenty of people on both sides of the political isle who own guns. Comparing people of a certain political persuasion to Hitler does nothing to further a reasoned debate. Hitler also was very effective at dividing people, and making certain ethnic groups the scapegoats for what many perceived as wrong in pre-Nazi Germany. One could argue that those attacking a certain political group are also using Hitler's tactics.

It's all about fear, folks. Some people would have you fear others as a way to control you and get your vote.

[Dan-o]

So, you don't think that the liberal gun control crowd in America is following essentially THE EXACT SAME PLAYBOOK that Hitler did?

I get that comparing to Hitler for everything isn't valid, but where does this comparison fall down?

[rbinhood]

No, I don' think the gun control crowd in America is following Hitler's playbook.

I do think the NRA and other like groups use scare tactics to further their membership rolls and to divide our country along political and other lines.

What has happened is this constant fear mongering has driven the price of ammo and reloading supplies out of sight by turning people into hoarders. Show me one person's gun that the current administration has taken? Show me one piece of ammunition that the current administration has taken? Yet, I get inundated with emails saying Obama (if they bother to spell his name right) is coming to take our guns and ammunition. It's all BS scare tactics.

[bearpaw]

No, I don' think the gun control crowd in America is following Hitler's playbook.

I do think the NRA and other like groups use scare tactics to further their membership rolls and to divide our country along political and other lines.

What has happened is this constant fear mongering has driven the price of ammo and reloading supplies out of sight by turning people into hoarders. Show me one person's gun that the current administration has taken? Show me one piece of ammunition that the current administration has taken? Yet, I get inundated with emails saying Obama (if they bother to spell his name right) is coming to take our guns and ammunition. It's all BS scare tactics.

Dude, you need to seriously pull your head out of the sand! 

[bearpaw]

If the NRA wasn't supporting the 2nd Amendment in congress and winning court battles across the nation we would have lost our 2nd Amendment rights long ago. 

[bearpaw]

The only reason Obama hasn't taken our guns and ammo is due to the efforts of the NRA, other similar groups, and 2nd Amendment supporters in Congress. 

[Dave Workman]

If the NRA wasn't supporting the 2nd Amendment in congress and winning court battles across the nation we would have lost our 2nd Amendment rights long ago. 

Geez, I sure hope you don't forget the Second Amendment Foundation. They won the McDonald ruling. They also won Moore v. Madigan, and a slug of other court rulings.

Their motto:  Winning firearms freedom one lawsuit at a time.

[Stalker]

I do think the NRA and other like groups use scare tactics to further their membership rolls and to divide our country along political and other lines.

So you do not believe these are the same tactics used by the media and a number of left wing groups that want to remove all individual firearms? They are one and the same. What is absolutely ridicules is when the politicians stand up and state that XXX new gun control law will have "NO" impact on crime or mass shooting and people still support it's passage. Makes absolute perfect sense, more worthless laws that only impact law abiding citizens.............   

What has happened is this constant fear mongering has driven the price of ammo and reloading supplies out of sight by turning people into hoarders. Show me one person's gun that the current administration has taken? Show me one piece of ammunition that the current administration has taken? Yet, I get inundated with emails saying Obama (if they bother to spell his name right) is coming to take our guns and ammunition. It's all BS scare tactics.

The ones hording ammo and driving the price up would be U.S. Government agencies like HS and TSA who have ordered "BILLIONS" of rounds of ammo. What would these two agencies need with such a stockpile?  I believe that is more small arms ammo then military forces keep in their inventories.

You are correct that this administration has not sent out troopers of any sort to collect either weapons or ammo. But if you believe they would not if they for one minute believed they could without significant recoil then I believe you are sadly mistaken.

[bearpaw]

If the NRA wasn't supporting the 2nd Amendment in congress and winning court battles across the nation we would have lost our 2nd Amendment rights long ago. 

Geez, I sure hope you don't forget the Second Amendment Foundation. They won the McDonald ruling. They also won Moore v. Madigan, and a slug of other court rulings.

Their motto:  Winning firearms freedom one lawsuit at a time.

OOOpppsss, sorry about that. SAF is on the front lines. 

[csaaphill]

perfect spot for this

[rbinhood]

Today's NRA is not the NRA that I used to belong to. The NRA was corrupted years ago by people who have used it to further an ultra-conservative political agenda at the expense of the ideals the NRA was originally founded on. Read the history of the NRA and track its leadership; the cause and effect is undeniable.

I regularly attend gun shows and the people I see buying up ammo are not from the government. The people I see at Walmart waiting for ammo to arrive in the sporting goods department are not from the government. The suggestion that the government is hoarding ammo is just another example of more fear mongering by people using numbers to misstate what is really going on. 

The people sending me emails saying Obama is going to come take your guns and ammo come off as paranoid. They are people who have bought into and perpetrate fear mongering that is a poor substitute for rational debate on the subject. I understand that this issue is driven by emotion and not objective evidence and as a consequence, there's little to be gained by further discourse. You have your beliefs, I have mine.