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Since '92... things have evolved - A LOT!
« on: December 13, 2013, 06:08:14 AM »
An interest in bow hunting has been rekindled in me.  Back in "the day" I hunted with a Martin Lynx 65 lb 29" draw 50% let off. It was a 205 FPS bow with a 540gr arrow. 
Browsing around the web and I am seeing that XX75 arrows are no longer being produced in the size my old Martin was tuned for.
I am trying to figure out what spine carbon arrow would be an appropriate choice if I decide to stick with my old bow.
I used to hunt with 125gr Thunderhead broad heads - at least those are still in production. I'm figuring I will have switch to 100gr BH's if I switch to carbon arrows and continue to use my old Martin Lynx.
Anyways I am looking for some objective advise, i.e. continue to use the old bow and switch to carbon arrows or leave it hanging in the garage and begin the search for a modern bow.
Looking at the new bows out there I am seeing ratings as high as 340 FPS.  That is crazy fast. Is that with a 540gr arrow or did the IBO standard change to a lighter arrow weight?

Thanks, Don
Arlington, WA


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Re: Since '92... things have evolved - A LOT!
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2013, 06:42:06 AM »
consider the distances that you will be shooting . If your going to stretch your shots out to the fifty yard mark it would make sense to upgrade . for instance we put a 390 grain arrow through a bow tech insanity at 60 lbs and 28 inches it pushed it 301 fps . that's just blazing . be carful with ibo speeds often bows slow down quickly when legal hunting arrow are shot . the difference in the new set ups in my mind are about five yards either side of your yardage guess . It can be the difference in a clean kill or a wounded animal  :twocents: If you decide to stick with your lincon logs I still have a bunch of xx75 sluper slams in 2419 if you need some . 

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Re: Since '92... things have evolved - A LOT!
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2013, 06:44:18 AM »
If your comfortable with your old bow I don't see any reason not to stick with it. There are some awesome new technologies out now, however, and the difference you'll see in a new bow vs. a 21 year old bow would be substantial.

Personally, I don't see much of an advantage to the latest and greatest over a 5 year old bow which would sell at a bargain in comparison to the latest and greatest.

As far as the blazing fast IBO speeds; you're not going to get that fast and be legal in Washington because a heavier arrow weight is required that what are used to calculate IBO. You'll need at least 6 grains per pound, but, obviously you'll clear that easily with a 540 grain setup.

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Re: Since '92... things have evolved - A LOT!
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2013, 06:50:19 AM »
IBO now uses 5 grains per pound of draw what.  I think its normally 70# and 29" draw is the standard.

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Re: Since '92... things have evolved - A LOT!
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2013, 07:22:00 AM »
what xx75's aren't being produced anymore?   :dunno:  I'm a 2215 guy myself.  459 grains of fury!   :chuckle:

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Re: Since '92... things have evolved - A LOT!
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2013, 08:41:49 AM »
The arrows are 28.5" 2213's with a 125gr tip and feather fletch not vanes. the arrows weigh in at about 500 grs as memory serves me. Using a spectra string.
The main reason I am using feathers was because of contact with the riser and stability problems when using 4" vanes.
Looking at trying one of the new fangled whisker rests and the smaller vanes. The concern is that going lighter in arrow weight is beyond that which the limbs on the old Martin will withstand.
Thanks, Don

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Re: Since '92... things have evolved - A LOT!
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2013, 09:03:49 AM »
If your comfortable with your old bow I don't see any reason not to stick with it. There are some awesome new technologies out now, however, and the difference you'll see in a new bow vs. a 21 year old bow would be substantial.
I would imagine a new bow would be close to half the weight of that old bow as well, and if you hike a lot that would be a factor in the decision if it were me. :twocents:
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Re: Since '92... things have evolved - A LOT!
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2013, 09:24:17 AM »
I still have my carry sling for the old boat anchor...  :IBCOOL:

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Re: Since '92... things have evolved - A LOT!
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2013, 09:27:55 AM »
I still have my carry sling for the old boat anchor...  :IBCOOL:
I still have a VCR too. :dunno:
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Re: Since '92... things have evolved - A LOT!
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2013, 09:37:22 AM »
2213s are of minimal spine for 60lb draw 28.5 shaft with an 85gr broadhead..........your arrow setup may have contributed to your riser contact problems.  If you want to stay with the old bow, Id change over to 2413s and go with 100gr broadheads.

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Re: Since '92... things have evolved - A LOT!
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2013, 09:52:39 AM »
Thanks for the heads up.

I brought the bow in to work with today. Think I will head over to the Knock Pt at lunch and see what options they have for me.

I pretty much figure I was over doing it with the draw weight and arrow spine "as is."

Might have to wait until after Christmas to haul a new bow home...  :chuckle:

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Re: Since '92... things have evolved - A LOT!
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2013, 10:30:33 AM »
Nice bow - but... REF: my alias WASouthpaw.

It looks like a RH bow to me.  :(

Thanks, Don

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Re: Since '92... things have evolved - A LOT!
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2013, 11:34:45 AM »
The arrows are 28.5" 2213's with a 125gr tip and feather fletch not vanes. the arrows weigh in at about 500 grs as memory serves me.

http://www.eastonarchery.com/arrows/alloy-xx75-camo-hunter/0/2

2213's are still available.  i also use feathers (4 inch left helical), mainly for their broadhead steering and forgiveness.  are you building your own arrows, or buying made-to-order (MTO)?  if you're buying MTO, you can get them from lancaster.  easton's site has a shaft selector on it...  http://eastonarchery.com/store/shaft_selector/  play around and have fun!   :tup:

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Re: Since '92... things have evolved - A LOT!
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2013, 11:46:46 AM »
I 40+ yrs experience as a reloader - so naturally I prefer to build my own arrows too. I have all the gear needed.
Thanks, I really appreciate everyone's input. Don

 


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