Letter to Raffle Tag REPOSTED!!!!!

[headshot5]

Money has jack crap to do with any of this!!! It is about a guy who I ME none of the rest of HW ran into. It's about MY personal experience with this guy and what was done in the area I was hunting in the following days.

Have you ever been to Cabelas?

[Jonathan_S]

Most rich hunters are just inconsiderate *censored*s who have no respect for others.

How many "rich hunters" have you ran into in the woods and you didn't know it?? Pretty bold statement

Naches, you're way too smart to say that kind of thing   

Someone in one of my parent's immediate family won the lottery for $10,000,000 in the '90s and you wouldn't have known he was any different than anyone else in the woods.  Except for maybe his Benellis and Weatherbys.

A mentor/friend of mine makes mid six-figures and takes time off work to take his nieces and nephews hunting, kinder than 90% of people in the woods.

[HntnFsh]

I could be mistaken. But it seems to me the original post was worded a bit differently. Was it modified or added to before being reposted. I think it is coming across a little different than the original..

[Jonathan_S]

I could be mistaken. But it seems to me the original post was worded a bit differently. Was it modified or added to before being reposted. I think it is coming across a little different than the original..

If that were the original post, this wouldn't have taken off like a turpentined cat.

[CoryTDF]

I could be mistaken. But it seems to me the original post was worded a bit differently. Was it modified or added to before being reposted. I think it is coming across a little different than the original..

I cant re-post exactly what was said as i did not save it but those are the main points. I said the same thing in the other post some people just jumped to conclusions and whats better some people even replied to it after it was gone without even reading it. I reposted it as close as I could making sure to note that the raffle tag holder was NOT a poacher. It was really just my opinion it's not a legal document I'm not trying to take the guy to court i was just stating my opinion and in true HW fashion some people had to flame it. Trust me and if not me ask JODakota it was a very interesting night and the following days were full of lots of questions. Nobody can really judge what I say because it is about an experience that I had and about the way it made me Feel. 

[Karl Blanchard]

I don't know anything about the situation or the two individuals except that the hunter was with mossback and therefore instantly makes me put my guard up. Anyone who hunts with mossback and his thugs needs to take a step back and reassess what hunting and the outdoors is supposed to be about.  That fact in itself should tell a man a lot about someones ethics and character.

[Todd_ID]

Uh oh, now we're getting into feelings..... Just kidding.  I wish these tags didn't bring the types of pressure that they do, but it's the system we've got.  The incentive tag was no different this year.

[Mr Mykiss]

Well here's the deal. You were obviously in a good spot because team mossback was there. You therefore had a shot at the giant bull yourself and you should be grateful/proud that you were in the right spot. I was in your exact same position in 2011 when I had both the raffle and gov tag bulls on trailcam in an area that I'd scouted all summer. My theory was that I was gonna shoot the crap outta the first 350...340...320...300" bull that I came across and I knew that the mb guide crew didn't give one rip about anything under 390 so I was glad that I was in the right spot and that I could have had a shot at a 400" bull. As far as blatantly lying about "bear hunting" that's crap. I told other quality bull tag holders that I too had a tag, we talked bulls plenty but I wouldn't have told them..."blah blah blah 380" bull @45 yards right by ____ this morning" that would just be silly. From what I saw mb spent as much time trying to get out of the trespassing tickets that they'd earned than they did hunting...at least during archery season

[jackelope]

Well here's the deal. You were obviously in a good spot because team mossback was there. You therefore had a shot at the giant bull yourself and you should be grateful/proud that you were in the right spot. I was in your exact same position in 2011 when I had both the raffle and gov tag bulls on trailcam in an area that I'd scouted all summer. My theory was that I was gonna shoot the crap outta the first 350...340...320...300" bull that I came across and I knew that the mb guide crew didn't give one rip about anything under 390 so I was glad that I was in the right spot and that I could have had a shot at a 400" bull. As far as blatantly lying about "bear hunting" that's crap. I told other quality bull tag holders that I too had a tag, we talked bulls plenty but I wouldn't have told them..."blah blah blah 380" bull @45 yards right by ____ this morning" that would just be silly. From what I saw mb spent as much time trying to get out of the trespassing tickets that they'd earned than they did hunting...at least during archery season

Dang trail cameras.
 

[JODakota]

Well here's the deal. You were obviously in a good spot because team mossback was there. You therefore had a shot at the giant bull yourself and you should be grateful/proud that you were in the right spot. I was in your exact same position in 2011 when I had both the raffle and gov tag bulls on trailcam in an area that I'd scouted all summer. My theory was that I was gonna shoot the crap outta the first 350...340...320...300" bull that I came across and I knew that the mb guide crew didn't give one rip about anything under 390 so I was glad that I was in the right spot and that I could have had a shot at a 400" bull. As far as blatantly lying about "bear hunting" that's crap. I told other quality bull tag holders that I too had a tag, we talked bulls plenty but I wouldn't have told them..."blah blah blah 380" bull @45 yards right by ____ this morning" that would just be silly. From what I saw mb spent as much time trying to get out of the trespassing tickets that they'd earned than they did hunting...at least during archery season

That's hilarious that you mention trespassing and mossback, because that's exactly what they did to the blue creek tag holder. After they saw the bull was shot, they called him in for trespassing thinking the bull was taken on whiskey creek, when in fact it wasnt. The land owner even came out to talk to to the county sheriff and told him that he had permission to hunt it there. So just to spite the lucky SOB tbru called him in when in fact they had no idea where the bull was shot. Mossback is a joke and so is anybody who hunts with them.

[Dan-o]

1.  Pretty much all of us have "misled" another hunter in the woods.     Sorry, but we mostly just don't tell the truth to strangers.  It's part of preserving what you have.   So, I can't really blame them for saying they were bear hunting.

2.  Pretty much all of us have walked into another guys hunt and ruined it.   It's a bummer, but it happens.   There's almost never ill intent. 

3.  If they left the meat out, that's bad.   But how do you really know unless you watched the whole thing the entire time.   Mossback can bring in a lot of strong young backs.

[washingtonmuley]

I don't know anything about the situation or the two individuals except that the hunter was with mossback and therefore instantly makes me put my guard up. Anyone who hunts with mossback and his thugs needs to take a step back and reassess what hunting and the outdoors is supposed to be about.  That fact in itself should tell a man a lot about someones ethics and character.

Agree

[Bigtine96]

They weren't all be accusations. I was up there when the tag holder shot that bull, and let me tell you it was quite an entertaining 7 or 8 shot s to put that bull down. Now to speak about the weather, it was in the 90s that night and easily in the 100's the next day. Now, idk if that meat was still good, but if it were mine, I wouldn't have eaten it. Let's talk about ethics, you guys are all defending this guy and you weren't even there to see what he did. Let's talk about how mossback and this guy acted when they saw "their" bluecreek bull being toted out by the lucky rifle rut tag holder. Anybody know how they reacted? I sure do and let me tell you, its definitely some of the most unsportsmanlike conduct I have ever seen. I think what Cory is getting at is basically this tag holder, is a straight up *censored*. Well that's my 2 cents, flamw on.

Like I said, haters gonna hate!

I read this in your posts all the time, are you one of those guys that have the "I heart haters" in their back window?

[rtspring]

Is this what big antlers have done to hunting??  What a bunch of BS...

Rtspring

[Mr Mykiss]

Is this what big antlers have done to hunting??  What a bunch of BS...

Rtspring

Didn't you recently post that... "there's no reason not to take a mature bull with any peaches tag"
I kid. I kid.

Yes when it becomes a checkbook/horn measuring contest this is what big antlers have done to hunting