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Re: Proposed executive actions on gun background checks
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2014, 01:57:52 PM »
During the 8 years he was in office, George W. Bush issued 293 executive orders.
Obama has issued less executive orders than any modern president:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/01/obama-executive-orders-guns.html

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Re: Proposed executive actions on gun background checks
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2014, 02:03:04 PM »
Another commie move by our corrupt government to satisfy THEIR wants, not ours. Like Bearpaw said, overstepping...............

Seems you need to look up communism.

And when you say "not ours," I don't know who you are referring to, but to be clear, that does not include me. I'm ok not giving felons or mentally ill firearms.

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Re: Proposed executive actions on gun background checks
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2014, 02:09:46 PM »
SO xd, what exactly will this executive order do and how will it directly help ?

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Re: Proposed executive actions on gun background checks
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2014, 02:14:32 PM »
SO xd, what exactly will this executive order do and how will it directly help ?

Ummm...there's a link to an article at the beginning of the thread, and many more out there to read.

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Re: Proposed executive actions on gun background checks
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2014, 02:24:40 PM »
If you can take them for their word in light of everything thats gone on in the last several years, thats on you.

I for one have zero faith or trust in this administration to do as they say for the reasons they give.  To me it appears to be agenda driven and a stepping stone.

None of us want mental patients as gun owners...none of us want mass shooting crimes.  However, in light of their agendas, they cant be trusted.  EVER

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Re: Proposed executive actions on gun background checks
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2014, 02:25:49 PM »
Another commie move by our corrupt government to satisfy THEIR wants, not ours. Like Bearpaw said, overstepping...............

Seems you need to look up communism.

And when you say "not ours," I don't know who you are referring to, but to be clear, that does not include me. I'm ok not giving felons or mentally ill firearms.



............a progressive statement if I've ever read one.
I couldn't care less about what anybody says..............

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Re: Proposed executive actions on gun background checks
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2014, 02:38:13 PM »
Another commie move by our corrupt government to satisfy THEIR wants, not ours. Like Bearpaw said, overstepping...............

Seems you need to look up communism.

And when you say "not ours," I don't know who you are referring to, but to be clear, that does not include me. I'm ok not giving felons or mentally ill firearms.



............a progressive statement if I've ever read one.

Clearly your understanding of communism is on par with your understanding of progressivism.  :bash:

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Re: Proposed executive actions on gun background checks
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2014, 03:07:34 PM »
Look up www.commieblast.com for some enlightenment.
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Re: Proposed executive actions on gun background checks
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Re: Proposed executive actions on gun background checks
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2014, 04:15:26 PM »
Congress should deal with this issue.

Leave it to Obama supporters to support their man no matter what he does, he could issue an executive order to abolish the Constitution and Bill od Rights and Obama supporters would say it was for the common good.

This is exactly how we ended up with the healthcare nightmare, Obama said it wasn't going to cost more, many people argued, but Obama supporters pushed it through anyway. Now insurance costs are increasing more than ever before and nobody is signing up except the people who will get free insurance. At the same time companies are dropping employees and/or insurance on employees.  :bash:

Fast & Furious, Benghazi, the list goes on. The man simply is not capable of making good well thought out workable decisions or policies.  :twocents:


Even though I am not a huge supporter of Bush, I have to remind the Obama supporters that this has nothing to do with Bush!  :chuckle:  :chuckle:  :chuckle:  :chuckle:  :chuckle:  :chuckle:
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Re: Proposed executive actions on gun background checks
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2014, 04:31:51 PM »
He doesnt need our votes or anything else.....he just needs our tax monies.  He can do everything else without us.

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Re: Proposed executive actions on gun background checks
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2014, 04:33:04 PM »
As much as people like to paint me as an Obama supporter, that couldn't be further from the truth.

With that said, Obama could issue an Executive Order saying the 2nd amendment is the law of the land and should not be argued any further, or better yet, that 1+1=2 and I am sure most the people here would argue that he's wrong. I just wish people would think about things rather than knee jerk react because they saw Obama, gun, and Executive Order in the same sentence.

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Re: Proposed executive actions on gun background checks
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2014, 05:07:29 PM »
Everything a progressive does , is a knee jerk reaction. They don't fix any problems, they just pass a new law, go against the constitution and spend more money. They make it worse than actually trying to fix something. Listen to the Patriot channel on Sirius Radio channel 125 and be informed about more lies from the progressives propaganda that isn't written or spoken by the liberal controlled media.

FYI, I dislike the lazy republican party too. They are just as worthless for inaction and standing by with their thumbs in a strategic place where they can't see them.
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Re: Proposed executive actions on gun background checks
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2014, 06:54:12 PM »
I guess I shouldn't be surprised by the comments on here...

Granted, csaaphill's comments are a given, considering his position that there should be absolutely no limits on types of firearms or who should possess them.

And Wash, there's nothing for "We the People" to follow in regards to these Executive Orders, so your comment makes absolutely no sense.

A year ago, everyone said how there should be no new laws, simply stronger enforcement of existing ones, including improvements to ensure the mentally ill were not able to obtain firearms. That is all this does, helps make it more difficult for the mentally ill to get firearms. Granted, I can understand why that would concern a few on here...

As for chasing down those that attempted to purchase but were denied, sure, we can chase them. But why not focus on those that were not denied and able to purchase? Yes, those denied could have obtained elsewhere, but those not denied needed no further steps. Again, these are people that do not legally qualify for firearms purchases, but were able to make them regardless because information was lacking in the system. This helps solve that problem.

And the argument that "people who intend to kill will find a way" is a bit old and too easily argued against. If Adam attacked an elementary school with rocks and knives, I guarantee the results would not have been the same. Small, intimate homicides can surely be carried out with alternative, legal weapons very easily. But mass casualty attacks are nowhere near as simple to conduct with these alternative weapons. There is a reason firearms are used. They are much faster and allow much more distance from an adversary. In fact, if you recall, at virtually the same time as the Sandy Hook incident, a knife attack occurred in China at a school. There, there were something like 23 injuries, no deaths. Tragic, of course, but you aren't going to convince me that a knife is a good alternative weapon in a mass attack.
Sorry but after reading this I feel a reminder that 9/11 was carried out with the use of box (knives) and not guns.So you see even you have to agree mass killings can still be carried out with even the crudest of weapons.  :twocents: We cannot outlaw intelligence nore stupidity so there will always be a way for these people to carry out these horrific acts.  :tup:
« Last Edit: January 04, 2014, 07:05:12 PM by stevemiller »
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Re: Proposed executive actions on gun background checks
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2014, 07:02:20 PM »
In the Jonestown massacre, they killed over 900 with Kool-Aid.

 


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