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Re: HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200
« Reply #105 on: January 12, 2014, 03:42:31 PM »
I suppose another school of thought is that a tax should be equal to all citizens.  :dunno:
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Re: HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200
« Reply #106 on: January 12, 2014, 04:00:49 PM »
For those individuals who do not spend $200.00 there are other options of getting a free or complementary DP and or NW Forest Pass. All these individuals have to do is donate some of their time. However, if they are like me they may not have the time to donate or willing to take the time. Maybe if more people donated time to doing projects they may not need to pay people to do the work and therefore eliminate the need for passes - yes, this does include me.
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Re: HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200
« Reply #107 on: January 12, 2014, 04:25:24 PM »
It's 24 hours of work required for a free discover pass. Seems a bit much to me. If it were 8 hours I'd consider doing it. But still probably wouldn't. My time is worth a lot more than that.

Having said that, the pass is only $30 people. If you hunt DNR lands, and especially if you camp on DNR lands, the $30 fee is well worth it. Yes, I'm getting pretty sick of all the whining!

If you don't feel access to DNR land is worth $30, then great! That means less people hunting in the areas I hunt. I'm all for that!

Still, I don't think the exemption for spending $200 is fair. It's especially not fair if they allow purchases for multiple people in one transaction to count for the $200. Some people don't have other family members that they buy licenses for.

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Re: HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200
« Reply #108 on: January 12, 2014, 05:27:02 PM »
It's 24 hours of work required for a free discover pass. Seems a bit much to me. If it were 8 hours I'd consider doing it. But still probably wouldn't. My time is worth a lot more than that.

Having said that, the pass is only $30 people. If you hunt DNR lands, and especially if you camp on DNR lands, the $30 fee is well worth it. Yes, I'm getting pretty sick of all the whining!

If you don't feel access to DNR land is worth $30, then great! That means less people hunting in the areas I hunt. I'm all for that!

Still, I don't think the exemption for spending $200 is fair. It's especially not fair if they allow purchases for multiple people in one transaction to count for the $200. Some people don't have other family members that they buy licenses for.

So if the $30 DP wasn't attached you'd feel the same?

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Re: HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200
« Reply #109 on: January 12, 2014, 05:40:30 PM »
30$ is fair.  everyone is always trying to game the system one way or another.  however it pans out, road maintenance, trails and all the other convenience's we enjoy cost money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200
« Reply #110 on: January 12, 2014, 06:19:09 PM »
You might actually convince me that a $2.40 pass to access DNR land would be worthwhile (since that's all they get out of the $30)  I just don't want to pay $25.20 for state parks that I don't use.
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Re: HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200
« Reply #111 on: January 12, 2014, 06:45:28 PM »
30$ is fair.  everyone is always trying to game the system one way or another.  however it pans out, road maintenance, trails and all the other convenience's we enjoy cost money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sure sure, totally fair the state decides to steal $30 bucks from ya.
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Re: HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200
« Reply #112 on: January 12, 2014, 06:55:53 PM »
The 96% of the public that does not hunt or fish is contributing 8% of the total revenue back to DFW is another way of looking at it. :twocents:

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Re: HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200
« Reply #113 on: January 12, 2014, 07:32:16 PM »
It's 24 hours of work required for a free discover pass. Seems a bit much to me. If it were 8 hours I'd consider doing it. But still probably wouldn't. My time is worth a lot more than that.

Having said that, the pass is only $30 people. If you hunt DNR lands, and especially if you camp on DNR lands, the $30 fee is well worth it. Yes, I'm getting pretty sick of all the whining!

If you don't feel access to DNR land is worth $30, then great! That means less people hunting in the areas I hunt. I'm all for that!

Still, I don't think the exemption for spending $200 is fair. It's especially not fair if they allow purchases for multiple people in one transaction to count for the $200. Some people don't have other family members that they buy licenses for.
:yeah: Well put and like you my time is worth more as well.
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Re: HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200
« Reply #114 on: January 13, 2014, 09:53:48 AM »
I like the previous idea of making the WDFW pass good for DNR land too.  Get a DP for parks or if you don't hunt.  I only feel less-abused about buying the Discover Pass because I visit state parks.  Using it for hunting on undeveloped DNR is insulting.  Trails& campgrounds, I can understand, but to require for access to "land" without a single recreation investment is wrong.  Brian Blake told me in an email (and yes, I still have it)  that requiring the DP for being on DNR land was something he would fight.  Guess this is his fighting.....better than nothing I suppose.

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Re: HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200
« Reply #115 on: January 13, 2014, 10:09:50 AM »
I voted NO!  I never come close to spending $200.00 for hunting fees but again I don't put in for all the permits other than buying archery tag for elk & deer. If I go the state parks I will typical buy 1 DP which covers two vehicles. Its a shame that to go for a picnic at Lake Easton State park that it costs $10.00 per day or $30.00 annually. If your camping that covers your DP pass for the time camping.. It just easier to buy and not worry about the ticket but I don't like it.

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Re: HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200
« Reply #116 on: January 13, 2014, 10:11:39 AM »
Its just more bureaucracy...NO...repeal the DP....or include the DP with any license purchase period.   

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Re: HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200
« Reply #117 on: January 13, 2014, 10:18:36 AM »
Its just more bureaucracy...NO...repeal the DP....or include the DP with any license purchase period.

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Re: HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200
« Reply #118 on: January 13, 2014, 10:32:04 AM »
I would agree if it was $100... Or included with the deer, elk, bear, cougar big game package.... Or if you bought any big game and small game package together....

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Re: HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200
« Reply #119 on: January 13, 2014, 10:37:19 AM »
Its just more bureaucracy...NO...repeal the DP....or include the DP with any license purchase period.


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