HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200

[Band]

Using it for hunting on undeveloped DNR is insulting.  Trails& campgrounds, I can understand, but to require for access to "land" without a single recreation investment is wrong.

Exactly!!

[bigtex]

Using it for hunting on undeveloped DNR is insulting.  Trails& campgrounds, I can understand, but to require for access to "land" without a single recreation investment is wrong.

Exactly!!

For the first year or two this was the law. The only DNR land it was needed on were the "developed areas." Then a lot of people complained about what is developed and what isn't, so the legislature basically said fine, it's needed on all DNR lands.

[bobcat]

Using it for hunting on undeveloped DNR is insulting.  Trails& campgrounds, I can understand, but to require for access to "land" without a single recreation investment is wrong.

Exactly!!

For the first year or two this was the law. The only DNR land it was needed on were the "developed areas." Then a lot of people complained about what is developed and what isn't, so the legislature basically said fine, it's needed on all DNR lands.

Right, but in the first couple years almost all DNR land WAS considered to be a developed recreation area, even if it wasn't. Such as ALL of Capitol Forest and all the rest of the large blocks of DNR land in this area.

So the change made very little difference.

[bigtex]

Using it for hunting on undeveloped DNR is insulting.  Trails& campgrounds, I can understand, but to require for access to "land" without a single recreation investment is wrong.

Exactly!!

For the first year or two this was the law. The only DNR land it was needed on were the "developed areas." Then a lot of people complained about what is developed and what isn't, so the legislature basically said fine, it's needed on all DNR lands.

Right, but in the first couple years almost all DNR land WAS considered to be a developed recreation area, even if it wasn't. Such as ALL of Capitol Forest and all the rest of the large blocks of DNR land in this area.

So the change made very little difference.

It really depended on the area. In your area it didn't make a difference. In my area the southern part of the county has no real "developed" areas and DNR didn't require the DP on those lands since they are all small chunks of land, now they do.

[bigtex]

Well if the forum members who voted on this poll were in the state legislature this bill would pass considering the poll totals right now

[rosscrazyelk]

Cool. Looks like I get a free discovery pass

[Swannytheswan]

The DP is just bad business. We hunters and fishers are being unjustly targeted simply because we are a captive user of a state promoted resource. We're actually being held ransom, the state is stealing from us. When all other user groups of state lands start having to drop 2 bills just to pursue their activities then we can be called even, till then no. 1 DP gratis per Wild ID number per year per purchase of "any" WDFW license. I wouldn't consider this bill as is as a favor to the sportsmen.

 

[blackdog]

Swanny, Many legislators agree with you (about 5-10) unfortunately the legislature works on a principal of 50 house votes, 25 Senate votes and Gov's signature. This bill has a slim chance of surviving bill cutoff and it doesn't sound like it has much support in the hunting community so it probably should die. "The perfect should always be the enemy of the good". 

[bigtex]

The financial impact has been released for this bill. In 2013 there were 11,131 "transactions" that met the qualifications of this bill and would receive a free Discover Pass. The total loss of revenue for this bill would be $333,930.

Parks loss of revenue $280,501
WDFW and DNR loss of revenue each $26,714

Now the impact acknowledges that there is a lot of unknowns. Such as how many of those 11,131 actually purchased a DP before, how many people didn't make a qualifying purchase in 2013 but would make one in 2014 if this bill passes and so on.

[bearpaw]

Thx for the info bigtex 

[KFhunter]

The financial impact has been released for this bill. In 2013 there were 11,131 "transactions" that met the qualifications of this bill and would receive a free Discover Pass. The total loss of revenue for this bill would be $333,930.

Parks loss of revenue $280,501
WDFW and DNR loss of revenue each $26,714

Now the impact acknowledges that there is a lot of unknowns. Such as how many of those 11,131 actually purchased a DP before, how many people didn't make a qualifying purchase in 2013 but would make one in 2014 if this bill passes and so on.

and how many people would buy an extra special draw permit, extra pole endorsement etc etc to bump them over the $200 mark.

I know if I were into it $180 (package deal license cost),  I'd apply for special permits, gov tags etc until I made it a $200 bill and would even feel good about it,  well better anyways 

[washelkhunter]

Oh you almost had it! You gotta reach for it.   

[KFhunter]

Oh you almost had it! You gotta reach for it.   

You mean "You almost got it,  bend over just a little further, a little more.....GAHARRGH  umph!  GOT IT!"

[Elkaholic daWg]

This still alive or dead?

[bigtex]

This still alive or dead?

Dead. Never even got a hearing.