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Yes, Clyde always carries a fresh razor blade to scape The window sticker off the windshield of anyone who does not quite agree with his thinking.Permits are not selling out as quick as they use too in there.
[He doesn't own the animals or their antlers. He is hired to patrol/enforce rules on hancocks PRIVATE PROPERTY they allow the public access for a fee. I believe what he is trying to do is good thing, keep it fair for all. Like it has already been stated, these escapement areas are closed to motorized access to EVERYONE else except spring bear tag holders. I would bet Clyde would have zero problem with a spring bear tag holder picking up a shed if he WALKED into the escapement area!
Even if you were 6'7" tall and 350 pounds, you may have a problem Campmeat. I've heard story's.
Quote from: funkster on March 05, 2014, 09:09:13 AM[He doesn't own the animals or their antlers. He is hired to patrol/enforce rules on hancocks PRIVATE PROPERTY they allow the public access for a fee. I believe what he is trying to do is good thing, keep it fair for all. Like it has already been stated, these escapement areas are closed to motorized access to EVERYONE else except spring bear tag holders. I would bet Clyde would have zero problem with a spring bear tag holder picking up a shed if he WALKED into the escapement area!A couple of thoughts here funkster.First, I have talked to by a member that told me that Clyde said he would pull his permit if he found a shed in his vehicle even if it was not in an escapement area.Second thought is about the fairness that you talk about. It is true that Spring bear hunters can drive in the escapement areas whereas others that do not draw the permit can not. Is that fair? I would like to think that if a person is lucky enough to draw that permit it would be nice if they follow state laws that they could pick up a shed antler as a perk of the special drawing. It hurts no one. I do know that workers on the farm drive in those area a lot and have been told by the office that they pick up antlers. So when you say the escapement areas are closed to everyone, that really is not a true statement. It seems to me that some workers want their own little haven for antlers and tell a different story than the front office.With that said, I do not value antlers more than my permit. We do pay a heck of a lot to get that permit and as long as we follow the laws, what good reason for Hancock is there just to irritate the people that support the permit program and respect the property.
Quote from: woodman on March 06, 2014, 06:02:39 AMQuote from: funkster on March 05, 2014, 09:09:13 AM[He doesn't own the animals or their antlers. He is hired to patrol/enforce rules on hancocks PRIVATE PROPERTY they allow the public access for a fee. I believe what he is trying to do is good thing, keep it fair for all. Like it has already been stated, these escapement areas are closed to motorized access to EVERYONE else except spring bear tag holders. I would bet Clyde would have zero problem with a spring bear tag holder picking up a shed if he WALKED into the escapement area!A couple of thoughts here funkster.First, I have talked to by a member that told me that Clyde said he would pull his permit if he found a shed in his vehicle even if it was not in an escapement area.Second thought is about the fairness that you talk about. It is true that Spring bear hunters can drive in the escapement areas whereas others that do not draw the permit can not. Is that fair? I would like to think that if a person is lucky enough to draw that permit it would be nice if they follow state laws that they could pick up a shed antler as a perk of the special drawing. It hurts no one. I do know that workers on the farm drive in those area a lot and have been told by the office that they pick up antlers. So when you say the escapement areas are closed to everyone, that really is not a true statement. It seems to me that some workers want their own little haven for antlers and tell a different story than the front office.With that said, I do not value antlers more than my permit. We do pay a heck of a lot to get that permit and as long as we follow the laws, what good reason for Hancock is there just to irritate the people that support the permit program and respect the property.Being able to drive in to the escapement area is fair, the spring bear tag is designed to be a damage control hunt. It would make little scenes to offer a damage control tag and handicap the hunter that is helping your company save thousands of dollars in tree damage. What you're failing to comprehend is if Hancock doesn't abide outside of state laws, Hancock can put any stipulation they want on THEIR private property. I personally could care less but I don't own the land. It would be no different if you owned the land and allowed your friends on the property with the stipulation not shed hunt. State law permits shed hunting on public land, the land owner has ever right not to permit it.
This whole thing is about the guys who draw a spring bear tag and buy a short term access pass just for spring bear season. You have a annual permit, it does not apply to you. Thats why clyde didn't say anything.
I had one in my hands and showed clyde a picture of another the other day. And all he had to talk about was kicking guys out who take them behind the gates with a spring bear tag. But by all means if you feel this applies to you feel free to leave the sheds for me.
Quote from: MLhunter1 on March 03, 2014, 10:21:52 AMIn the end the hancock office makes the calls of course. But in the meantime sounds like clyde will remove a pass and cause a guy to work with the office to get it back. If they would allow us full pass holders drive behind the gates with the spring bear guys I would not have a problem with the bear guys grabbin sheds. But there are sheds all over the farm, plenty for everyone who is willing to work for em. Clyde likes to strutt his feathers. I would like to see Clyde try to take someones pass based on His own Will and desires. Seems to me that his job would be on the line if He pulled a stunt like that.We as permit holders spend good money to not be harassed and looked at as if where always hiding something. My advise to anyone who has sheds in there truck and Clyde talking to you would be, Go talk to the office and management and No I'm not giving you my Pass and Key.
In the end the hancock office makes the calls of course. But in the meantime sounds like clyde will remove a pass and cause a guy to work with the office to get it back. If they would allow us full pass holders drive behind the gates with the spring bear guys I would not have a problem with the bear guys grabbin sheds. But there are sheds all over the farm, plenty for everyone who is willing to work for em. Clyde likes to strutt his feathers.
