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School me on muzzleloaders
« on: January 13, 2014, 09:33:58 PM »
Found a great deal on a knight bighorn I couldn't pass up,can anyone just give me some insight on powders and billets and all that good stuff

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Re: School me on muzzleloaders
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2014, 12:01:26 AM »
there are various powders you can use, I would start with triple seven powder. start with 100grain load. just about any bullet should shoot fine, and have plenty of power at 100grains. (you can vary a little up and down and experiment later, but most likely you wont need to.. ) everyone has their own preference for bullets- but the basic- and really all you need is a 300gr .45 bullet in a sabot, (assuming the rifle is a .50) I would start with the hornady xtp 300gr, or one of several others. often they are sold in a pack, and come with the proper sabots.. (which is a plastic wad that allows firing the .45 pistol bullet in athe .50)..

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Re: School me on muzzleloaders
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2014, 12:21:11 AM »
As a Knight owner myself.... I say, go with Pyrodex 777 pellets.
http://www.hodgdon.com/tripleseven-pellets.html
the pellets are 50 grns. each, so using 2 pellets is perfect for almost any load you could think to shoot out to 100 yards.
Pyrodex is a synthetic black powder, and is water soluable.
Thus....    EASY CLAEN UP!
Just litterally rinse out your muzzle loader with water, and wipe it out dry with clean patches. And you're all done cleaning.

I can draw a smiley face free hand with my knight at 50 yards.
I think it works great.
I also use Powerbelt bullets. So there is no need for a wad between the bullet and powder.
http://powerbeltbullets.com/Store-View.php?id=276
I like the 295 grn. hollow point leads.
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Re: School me on muzzleloaders
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2014, 01:26:02 AM »
I just got a new bighorn myself and I plan on using 777 pellets and a barnes bullet or the bloodlines.
You sure you know how to skin griz pilgram

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Re: School me on muzzleloaders
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 10:43:11 AM »
you'll be much more happier with loose powder  :tup:

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Re: School me on muzzleloaders
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2014, 10:46:33 AM »
you'll be much more happier with loose powder  :tup:


:yeah:  very true.  Less waste, more consistent burn of the charge, no misfires.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: School me on muzzleloaders
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2014, 10:50:14 AM »
you'll be much more happier with loose powder  :tup:

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Re: School me on muzzleloaders
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2014, 10:52:07 AM »
As a Knight owner myself.... I say, go with Pyrodex 777 pellets.

I like Pyrodex as well.
Get rid of the #10 caps and use Musket Caps.
With this combination I have never had a misfire.  :twocents:
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Re: School me on muzzleloaders
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2014, 10:53:22 AM »
Pyrodex select loose powder....find the grains your gun and bullet like and stay with it.  I know a ton of people that want to shoot 150 grains (max load in most newer muzzy's) and they are horrible shots.  I personally found mine shoots best with 110 grains. 

German musket caps are a must..in my humble opinion.

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Re: School me on muzzleloaders
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2014, 10:53:57 AM »
Powder go with hodgdons  777 fffg and a 300 gr bloodline bullet. You can practice with grains from 80-120 but 100 is a good starting point. You may want to use cheaper bullets for sighting and practice.

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Re: School me on muzzleloaders
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2014, 05:42:04 PM »
Look at muzzleloader bullets, whether on midwayusa or elsewhere.. you'll see they sell "hornady cheapshot" bullets.. it is 240gr lead hollowpoint, with a sabot. great practice bullet at less cost. (and in my tests a decent whitetail bullet, but I probably wouldnt use it on elk) 100gr saboted bullets out of the muzz with around 100gr of powder are close to the same size and speed as you would get from a .44 magnum carbine. Just like the lever gun 240 grain bulets are good deer medicine, but for elk and big stuff you are probably better off with 300gr or so.. with a possible exception of some of the solid copper bullets like the "barnes expander MZ'....

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Re: School me on muzzleloaders
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2014, 05:49:16 PM »
I use 3 pellets =150gr of powder under a 250gr Shockwave works great and tight groups. Great Gun.
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Re: School me on muzzleloaders
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2014, 05:53:00 PM »
I use 3 pellets =150gr of powder under a 250gr Shockwave works great and tight groups. Great Gun.
What pellets do you use?
You sure you know how to skin griz pilgram

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Re: School me on muzzleloaders
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2014, 08:15:41 PM »
Powder sucks....
You have to pour it out JUST right, or your bullet drops.
God forbid you have to reload in the field, ON A WINDY DAY... lol....

Pellets were designed and created for inline muzzle loaders, such as the Knight Bighorn.
I have never had a miss fire because of powder.

Pellets.
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Re: School me on muzzleloaders
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2014, 08:23:41 PM »
Powder sucks....
You have to pour it out JUST right, or your bullet drops.
God forbid you have to reload in the field, ON A WINDY DAY... lol....

Pellets were designed and created for inline muzzle loaders, such as the Knight Bighorn.
I have never had a miss fire because of powder.

Pellets.

Spoken from a guy that obviously doesn't use loose powder.  LOL (no disrespect meant).  Never seen a difference in performance from load to load with loose powder.  Never have had loose powder blow away.  You can always premeasure / perload your charges so you don't have to do any measurements in the field.....but if you do, it is very easy.  It is a volume measurement...not a weight measurement so all you need is a volume powder gauge. 

The one huge advantage to loose powder is you can work a load.  Pellets you have basically two choices....100 or 150.  I personally have never had a pellet misfire, but I also have never used them.  I have heard to many horror stories.

Seams this is love hate relationship for most muzzleloaders.  Love one and hate the other......lol

 


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