pam cooking spray for broadheads..

[RadSav]

I've never owned a broadhead long enough to have it rust.  I always seem to get blood on them way before they have time to rust.

I thought it was because you lose them shooting at does

[D-Rock425]

I got tree blood on that one.  I've never really had a problem with rust and I keep a minimum of 20 broadheads on arrows tuned and ready to shoot.

[RadSav]

I got tree blood on that one.  I've never really had a problem with rust and I keep a minimum of 20 broadheads on arrows tuned and ready to shoot.

When we finally find a new facility I need to get you down here.  Bring those broadheads and we will run them under the scope.  I think you will be surprised!  Who knows, maybe we'll get out and shoot some Bear and Bowtech bows too 

Hopefully we will find a place soon.  We are running out of room and need to start looking at hiring again so Lorraine and I can go play more!

[D-Rock425]

I don't want to see the rust I may or may not have on my broadheads.  If there was rust on them I would just have to buy more and the wife gets unhappy. She thinks the 20 or more I keep on hand is already to many.  I really do want to shoots some bears I don't care to shoot those bowtechs. 

[Jonathan_S]

Does anyone besides Smossy throw away blades after one hunt?  I never have thought that the rust on my blades would be enough to damage the sharpness within a 2-3 day period.

All my blades from this year are now practice blades but I thought that a one-and-done approach sounded a little overkill (expensive too) 

 

[RadSav]

I don't want to see the rust I may or may not have on my broadheads.  If there was rust on them I would just have to buy more and the wife gets unhappy. She thinks the 20 or more I keep on hand is already to many.  I really do want to shoots some bears I don't care to shoot those bowtechs.

It sure is nice when you track before you shoot instead of after!  Super-Sharp really does make a difference when it comes to that.

I'm a little late in getting my 2014 Bear bows.  I just couldn't decide between the single and hybrid cam.  That's usually an easy decision for me, but dang if these new Bear single cams aren't good shooters.  I expect I will have both before the year is over.  Sucks to be a bow addict 

Don't want to shoot a Bowtech?  Must be scared it's going to cost you some big money buying all new CPX bows    They sure aren't your dads old Bowtech that's for sure   Still not sure about the block limb and carbon riser models yet.  Not really my thing regardless of who makes 'em. 

One of the requirements for the new place will be room enough for a walk through range.  We'll have some fun...even if you bring those Hoyts!

[brushhunter]

great info i am going to get the reflective wrap thanks guys

[RadSav]

Does anyone besides Smossy throw away blades after one hunt?  I never have thought that the rust on my blades would be enough to damage the sharpness within a 2-3 day period.

All my blades from this year are now practice blades but I thought that a one-and-done approach sounded a little overkill (expensive too) 

 

Depends on where you are hunting.  Early on in my Savora days we tested stainless vs carbon on Catalina Island and the YO Ranch in Texas.  The cross over point where stainless began performing as well as carbon was much more pronounced on Catalina than it was at the YO.  While each day led to longer blood trails with both blade materials the environment of Catalina really accelerated the difference each new day brought to the results.

On Catalina first day results with carbon on goats was recovery average of just over ten yards.  On day five the average goat recovery was almost 80 yards.  Day four carbon and stainless recoveries were the same.

At the YO first day goat results were the same as Catalina.  But day five results were still only 45 yards with carbon.  And in that five day test at the YO stainless never did catch up to the average recovery distances of carbon. 

I expect if we had been closer to Houston the Catalina and Texas results would have been much closer due to similar humidity and salinity.

[Smossy]

After 3 day elk hunt this year, i set mym bow back up on the wall. About 3 or 4 days later i went to go to the range and i literally had light orange colored rust all over my blades. guess itd just me.

[demontang]

Grades of stainless can vary the edge quality and how much the elements effect it. Im suprised that the broad head world hasnt looked toward some of the new steels like sv40. Its superior to a lot of stainless used now and is way more uniform in the why its made. Theres lots of factors in blade materials and different cost too but in steels you will see a difference in the higher end of steel typs.

[RadSav]

Grades of stainless can vary the edge quality and how much the elements effect it. Im suprised that the broad head world hasnt looked toward some of the new steels like sv40. Its superior to a lot of stainless used now and is way more uniform in the why its made. Theres lots of factors in blade materials and different cost too but in steels you will see a difference in the higher end of steel typs.

The way it grinds and heat treats has a lot to do with stainless for razorblades. And then of course it has to be available in precision strip.  AEB-L is the premium material for sport razors at this time.  Quality of Slick Trick blades improved dramatically when they switched.  I'm really surprised more companies have not gotten on the band wagon.  Although they would have to care what end product they produce.  And unfortunately many don't   Then there are those who don't know there is a difference.

[NOCK NOCK]

I got tree blood on that one.  I've never really had a problem with rust and I keep a minimum of 20 broadheads on arrows tuned and ready to shoot.

 

[demontang]

I guess you are more limited to grinder options for thin blade material as well. I know the way ive made knives it can make a huge difference in blade edge with the type of grinder and grit options there are for them. Id think if the consumer showed interest and could understand the drive behind truly sharp blades it would be different.

[RadSav]

I guess you are more limited to grinder options for thin blade material as well. I know the way ive made knives it can make a huge difference in blade edge with the type of grinder and grit options there are for them. Id think if the consumer showed interest and could understand the drive behind truly sharp blades it would be different.

Yeah, as stainless has become more and more popular it's harder and harder to find the grinding heads that produced those legendary blade edges Savora produced in the past.  We were successful at grinding AEB-L with them, but it took some serious engineering and proprietary grooving of the wheels.  I guess that has proved too difficult for most and we can no longer get those grinding heads.  We have tried desperately to get the manufacturer to make a special run for us.  No matter how much money we throw at the project we keep getting denied.  It really is a shame.

Hopefully as we start to see more and more stainless with grinding properties closer to that of 1095 and similar high carbon spring they will begin to reconsider.  I have a guy we employ to keep constant pressure on the manufacturer to bring it back or make a special run.  But, outside of Gillette no one seems to really give a darn about such micronic differences anymore.  Ultimate quality is becoming replaced by ease of use, convenience and profit margins.  I believe you are right that if the consumer showed interest and could understand the drive behind truly sharp blades it would be different.  Unfortunately when so many end consumers don't seem to care one way or the other it supports this new frame of mind.  There are a few of us left out there who will continue to fight for the best.  Whether we succeed is yet to be determined.

[demontang]

Well you have me on your side and I pass my knowledge to who ever is willing to listen and understand