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Re: Alberta wolf bounties
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2014, 06:28:08 PM »
I think wolves will be a permit draw just like moose,spring bear,ect.WDFW has to make there money.And the tag counld be whatever they say.It might 100.00 dollors a tag if u get drawed.Coyotes will stay the same as far as limit.There just too smart,they been traped,hunted without limits for years a still thirve today.Its kinda a proven fact.

Wolves have already had a major impact in other states where they were released under the public eye.
 Too much info has been released as to the impact on wildlife and livestock, plus the danger of wolves and the diseases they spread, which is the main reason the USFWS and state game agencies released wolves on the sly in other states, AND then ignore reports and refuse to confirm unless force to do so.

Look at WDFW and their fake wolf plan, pretending that the lookout pack was the first wolf pack in 70 years, when in 1992 they had confirmed six wolf packs in the Cascades.  Kind of like obamacare, at some point in time it will fold, but not before it causes untold damages.



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Re: Alberta wolf bounties
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2014, 06:44:27 PM »
Im just telling you that when delisting comes,WDFW will want to make as much money as they can from wolf hunters.I do agree with you on the impact other states have had.I agree that there management is a fake wolf plan.First part of my quote was about wolves,The other part was about coyotes.

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Re: Alberta wolf bounties
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2014, 06:49:04 PM »
I don't think WDFW will have enough time to make any money on the wolves as the impacts will be great in a short amount of time. After all they have lied from the start, and continue to down play the amount of wolves, their lies can only go on for so long.

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Re: Alberta wolf bounties
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2014, 06:55:01 PM »
Those who argue for wolves or down play the impacts, pushing for more habitat, might find out they are a bit late. They can blame the USFWS and WDFW for filling WA with wolves too soon.

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Re: Alberta wolf bounties
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2014, 06:58:47 PM »
That is true,but if they lose money though deer and elk tags ,they will wanna make it up somewhere,and i think it might be wolf tags.That the impacts your thinking of is gonna drive the price of a wolf tag way up it coulnd be any amount up 1000 dollors a tag u never know. :)

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Re: Alberta wolf bounties
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2014, 07:04:40 PM »
Im not gonna pay some huge amount .But there will be people that will.I think the price of a moose tag is crazy,but if i was lucky enough to draw it ,i woulnd pay it just for the meat and the chance.

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Re: Alberta wolf bounties
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2014, 07:11:20 PM »
That is true,but if they lose money though deer and elk tags ,they will wanna make it up somewhere,and i think it might be wolf tags.That the impacts your thinking of is gonna drive the price of a wolf tag way up it coulnd be any amount up 1000 dollors a tag u never know. :)

If  WDFW were worried about making money from hunters they wouldn't have planted wolves in the first place. I think what many people don't understand is, the wolf is a tool much like the spotted owl. That being said once cattlemen are run off the public lands and hunting is shut down, closing down public lands will be much easier, which is the goal. WDFW buying up every piece of land they can get, etc. adds to the end results. Thats why the biologists for WDFW are on W-H pushing for more habitat. ;)

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Re: Alberta wolf bounties
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2014, 07:17:06 PM »
Has anyone ever wondered why all of the wolf packs confirmed always turn up in cattle country?  Release and Finally Discover, but only after WDFW has no other choice!

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Re: Alberta wolf bounties
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2014, 07:23:36 PM »
They will never stop hunting on private land,have u ever seen farmer hunting regs whatever you see while on the tracktor is fair game.Closeing public land wont stop most of us thats the peoples land .Most of the gates ,ditches,big holes in the roads dont slow people down now.And thats mostly firewood hunters.Very hard to stop someone from walking onto public land they can barely enforce the rules they have now.

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Re: Alberta wolf bounties
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2014, 07:23:49 PM »
If  WDFW were worried about making money from hunters they wouldn't have planted wolves in the first place. I think what many people don't understand is, the wolf is a tool much like the spotted owl. That being said once cattlemen are run off the public lands and hunting is shut down, closing down public lands will be much easier, which is the goal. WDFW buying up every piece of land they can get, etc. adds to the end results. Thats why the biologists for WDFW are on W-H pushing for more habitat. ;)

Wait just a minute. So your saying the WDFW has been purchasing private property (that was previously off limits to the public) in order to lock the public out of land that was previously unavailable to them??? Did I get that right or does my tinfoil antenna need adjusting???

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Re: Alberta wolf bounties
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2014, 07:32:02 PM »
If  WDFW were worried about making money from hunters they wouldn't have planted wolves in the first place. I think what many people don't understand is, the wolf is a tool much like the spotted owl. That being said once cattlemen are run off the public lands and hunting is shut down, closing down public lands will be much easier, which is the goal. WDFW buying up every piece of land they can get, etc. adds to the end results. Thats why the biologists for WDFW are on W-H pushing for more habitat. ;)

Wait just a minute. So your saying the WDFW has been purchasing private property (that was previously off limits to the public) in order to lock the public out of land that was previously unavailable to them??? Did I get that right or does my tinfoil antenna need adjusting???

You got it right, WDFW have been buying up private property.

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Re: Alberta wolf bounties
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2014, 07:36:38 PM »
They will never stop hunting on private land,have u ever seen farmer hunting regs whatever you see while on the tracktor is fair game.Closeing public land wont stop most of us thats the peoples land .Most of the gates ,ditches,big holes in the roads dont slow people down now.And thats mostly firewood hunters.Very hard to stop someone from walking onto public land they can barely enforce the rules they have now.

You are right they can't stop hunters from hunting on private land, but wolves and cougars can eliminate everything you would want to hunt, except maybe rattlesnakes. as far as wood cutting the USFS is already making new rules :bash:

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Re: Alberta wolf bounties
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2014, 07:38:07 PM »
If  WDFW were worried about making money from hunters they wouldn't have planted wolves in the first place. I think what many people don't understand is, the wolf is a tool much like the spotted owl. That being said once cattlemen are run off the public lands and hunting is shut down, closing down public lands will be much easier, which is the goal. WDFW buying up every piece of land they can get, etc. adds to the end results. Thats why the biologists for WDFW are on W-H pushing for more habitat. ;)

Wait just a minute. So your saying the WDFW has been purchasing private property (that was previously off limits to the public) in order to lock the public out of land that was previously unavailable to them??? Did I get that right or does my tinfoil antenna need adjusting???

You got it right, WDFW have been buying up private property.
Tinfoil antenna  :chuckle: :chuckle: Noe that's one I never heard before ...lmao  :tup:

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Re: Alberta wolf bounties
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2014, 07:37:23 AM »
Has anyone ever wondered why all of the wolf packs confirmed always turn up in cattle country? 

Because it's closer to Idaho (where they have many wolves) than the west side and full of deer, elk, and tasty cows.     :chuckle:

You could honestly write that question with a straight race?

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Re: Alberta wolf bounties
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2014, 07:38:47 AM »
If  WDFW were worried about making money from hunters they wouldn't have planted wolves in the first place. I think what many people don't understand is, the wolf is a tool much like the spotted owl. That being said once cattlemen are run off the public lands and hunting is shut down, closing down public lands will be much easier, which is the goal. WDFW buying up every piece of land they can get, etc. adds to the end results. Thats why the biologists for WDFW are on W-H pushing for more habitat. ;)

Wait just a minute. So your saying the WDFW has been purchasing private property (that was previously off limits to the public) in order to lock the public out of land that was previously unavailable to them??? Did I get that right or does my tinfoil antenna need adjusting???


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