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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2014, 11:00:27 AM »
In my opinion the big three is where the biggest weight savings occurs.
Pack: kifaru bikini with DT1 bag- 5 lb 4 oz after some modifications
Tent: tarp tent Rainshadow2 - 2lb 10oz
Sleeping Bag: Marmot Helium Long - 2lb 8oz

Other items you start shaving ounces compared to others. On some items I will still sacrifice convenience over weight
Jetboil Sol Ti- 8.5oz
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Light- Zebralight h52Fw 2 oz headlamp

It has been a slow and somewhat expensive process but light AND dependable gear makes the hunt much more enjoyable. I am also thinking about things such as: how many game bags do I really need?, is the forecast predicting any cold or bad weather?, how much food do I need per day to stay 100%? 

For instance on a short 4 day trip I may throw down a huge meal a couple hours before taking off and then live on 2000 calories a day knowing that on the last day I may start feeling it a little. Or 2000 calories a day and then bring a 1500 calorie bonus pick me up for day 3.  Or on short trips when water isn't readily available it will pay to ditch the stove and bring bagels, sharp dried cheese and some dried salami.

It all turns into personal preference and what it takes for you to enjoy the trip.  :twocents:

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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2014, 11:28:33 AM »

Not related much to the thread but how many days does that 2 gallons get you ? What kinda temps/activity level ? In september base camp we have to pack water about half hour one way (not too bad) an I usually plan for a gallon a day per person when its hot out
i do 1.5 gal per day once there, with 2 gal on the way in. im a sweaty guy though :chuckle:

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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2014, 11:48:29 AM »
Why carry so much water?  Are the animals going to be were there is nothing to drink?

Sorry for the off-subject question.

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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2014, 12:53:36 PM »
75# for week long trips appx. 45# for 3-4 dayers
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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2014, 01:11:42 PM »
Why carry so much water?  Are the animals going to be were there is nothing to drink?

Sorry for the off-subject question.

First time I hunted goats I was amazed how far from drinkable water we were.  Those buggers can get by with licking wet moss.  It's pretty hard to get my noodles or Mountain House cooked with wet moss :chuckle:  If we watch things close two gallons can get one guy three days.  But in that country we average a gallon per person easily each day.  Usually four meals each day plus drinks puts the hurt on a gallon of water pretty quick.  We once found a patch of snow at -18 C.  Thought we were in business, but that stuff was so cold and fluffy it took about a cubic yard of snow to get half a gallon of water.  That takes more fuel than we were willing to waste.

One note to mention;  When it's that cold you want to pack water in single use containers.  Nothing worse than working that hard to get to camp just to find out your gallon jugs are one solid chunk of ice.  Much easier and fuel efficient to melt a small amount of water.

We found the same thing hunting sheep and depending on where the caribou were.  Many of the areas we hunted elk in the Eagle Caps was quite shy on drinkable water sources close to where we camped.  What took us eight hours of packing to get from the river to the goat spots would take a goat about an hour at night.  In cold weather they don't seem to make that trip, but in warmer weather we did notice them making the trip every other day or so.
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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2014, 01:15:21 PM »
You can save a lot of water each day by putting a Ricola between your check and gums while hiking hard.  I find I drink half the amount of water each day when I do that.
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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2014, 10:30:03 PM »
Why carry so much water?  Are the animals going to be were there is nothing to drink?

Sorry for the off-subject question.
i shoulda told you sooner, mule deer dont drink water...  :chuckle:

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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2014, 10:46:07 PM »
33-35lb is the beats iv bin able to get down to for 2 nights . 2 guys . one gun . one animal . works out good . let the meat cool over night before bagging up  for the pack out .

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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2014, 06:22:32 AM »
2013 my pack was at 63#.  Lighter than the year before.  When I went on my first back country hunt my pack weigh 100#.  Way to heavy and even at 63# I still feel a bit heavy. But there really isn't anything that I want to take out.  The tripod I have weights 8#.  So I could go out and spend big bucks and buy a carbon fiber pod but I would rather carry the extra weight.
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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2014, 08:36:12 PM »
2013 my pack was at 63#.  Lighter than the year before.  When I went on my first back country hunt my pack weigh 100#.  Way to heavy and even at 63# I still feel a bit heavy. But there really isn't anything that I want to take out.  The tripod I have weights 8#.  So I could go out and spend big bucks and buy a carbon fiber pod but I would rather carry the extra weight.

You don't need to spend big money to get a light tripod capable of performing in the backcountry...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=614703&is=REG&A=details&Q=

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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2014, 06:25:23 AM »
2013 my pack was at 63#.  Lighter than the year before.  When I went on my first back country hunt my pack weigh 100#.  Way to heavy and even at 63# I still feel a bit heavy. But there really isn't anything that I want to take out.  The tripod I have weights 8#.  So I could go out and spend big bucks and buy a carbon fiber pod but I would rather carry the extra weight.

You don't need to spend big money to get a light tripod capable of performing in the backcountry...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=614703&is=REG&A=details&Q=
silk do you have this tripod?  I have found on the cheaper tripods that they are flimsy and it is hard to stay on your target.  This tripod looks to be of pretty good quality.  But pics can be deceiving.
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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2014, 06:29:15 AM »

2013 my pack was at 63#.  Lighter than the year before.  When I went on my first back country hunt my pack weigh 100#.  Way to heavy and even at 63# I still feel a bit heavy. But there really isn't anything that I want to take out.  The tripod I have weights 8#.  So I could go out and spend big bucks and buy a carbon fiber pod but I would rather carry the extra weight.

You don't need to spend big money to get a light tripod capable of performing in the backcountry...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=614703&is=REG&A=details&Q=
silk do you have this tripod?  I have found on the cheaper tripods that they are flimsy and it is hard to stay on your target.  This tripod looks to be of pretty good quality.  But pics can be deceiving.

Yes I do have this tripod. I dumped the  ball head and added a manfrotto 700cr pan head. Really like the combo!

If your near orting you can come put hands on.


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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2014, 04:56:25 PM »

2013 my pack was at 63#.  Lighter than the year before.  When I went on my first back country hunt my pack weigh 100#.  Way to heavy and even at 63# I still feel a bit heavy. But there really isn't anything that I want to take out.  The tripod I have weights 8#.  So I could go out and spend big bucks and buy a carbon fiber pod but I would rather carry the extra weight.

You don't need to spend big money to get a light tripod capable of performing in the backcountry...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=614703&is=REG&A=details&Q=
silk do you have this tripod?  I have found on the cheaper tripods that they are flimsy and it is hard to stay on your target.  This tripod looks to be of pretty good quality.  But pics can be deceiving.

Yes I do have this tripod. I dumped the  ball head and added a manfrotto 700cr pan head. Really like the combo!

If your near orting you can come put hands on.


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thanks for the input! I don't get out orting way very often. For 65 bucks I'll give it a shot.
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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #43 on: April 06, 2014, 11:04:16 PM »
Here is a quick list of what I would bring and how much the pack would weigh (Dang I love Excel).  This would be for a 4 night trip, carrying 2 liters of water (so assuming there was accessible water).  Weather would be expected to be reasonable (not super cold, but ready for a cold snap).  It assumes I could wash some clothes and they would have time to dry.

Comes out to 54 lbs on the back (including rifle, ammo 14 rounds of ammo and shell holders), 10.5 pounds on the body, and 40ish pounds left in the truck (I guessed on the weights for some of the car items).
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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #44 on: April 11, 2014, 01:19:35 PM »
Good list! Only one problem I can see..... 1.5oz flask??!!? That just won't do! I'll skimp on other things, but a good Nalgene full of bourbon is worth the extra weight.. Especially after a long day hunting and resting by a small campfire! Yep! That's the life!!

 


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