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Sun Valley colt
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Re: Sun Valley colt
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2014, 11:47:23 PM »
Thanks for the link, also listened to the testimony very heartfelt and emotional.


Also found it interesting they keep a Coyote as an alert for approaching wolves, I bet they'd work fantastic for that.  I've read quite a bit about Coyotes kept as working dog for various things including a bird dog.

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Re: Sun Valley colt
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2014, 12:48:02 AM »
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Re: Sun Valley colt
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2014, 07:41:55 AM »
I like (not really, but I find it darkly humorous) that they figured the wolves would move on after a week because they thought there was a lack of food and then got surprised when their dogs got hassled. February is the general start of  denning season. Talk about sticking their finger in a light socket and taking a huge chance.

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Re: Sun Valley colt
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2014, 11:40:19 AM »
Loved THIS part!

"Yesterday a part of me died with my little friend JR Luna Azul."
 "RIP my beautiful colt!" I will hunt down the wolf that did this".....
 "Rest assured, it is now living on borrowed time."

"Rise and rise again until lambs become lions!!!"
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Re: Sun Valley colt
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2014, 05:35:27 PM »
I like (not really, but I find it darkly humorous) that they figured the wolves would move on after a week because they thought there was a lack of food and then got surprised when their dogs got hassled. February is the general start of  denning season. Talk about sticking their finger in a light socket and taking a huge chance.

These people were a part of several people who had wolves dumped on them many years ago, and then were forced to adapt. I'm quite sure they know more about wolf behavior then you will probably ever know A-bud. But you just keep telling everyone how wolf-smart you are, and of course your buddies on W-H will drool with anticipation for your next spout of wisdom.

I wonder what you would say if it was your colt, your kid, etc.. When you start getting hurt by the wolves you might have different ideas.

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Re: Sun Valley colt
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2014, 10:36:02 AM »
I like (not really, but I find it darkly humorous) that they figured the wolves would move on after a week because they thought there was a lack of food and then got surprised when their dogs got hassled. February is the general start of  denning season. Talk about sticking their finger in a light socket and taking a huge chance.

These people were a part of several people who had wolves dumped on them many years ago, and then were forced to adapt. I'm quite sure they know more about wolf behavior then you will probably ever know A-bud. But you just keep telling everyone how wolf-smart you are, and of course your buddies on W-H will drool with anticipation for your next spout of wisdom.

I wonder what you would say if it was your colt, your kid, etc.. When you start getting hurt by the wolves you might have different ideas.

I think they need to become better studies of wolf behavior.

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Re: Sun Valley colt
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2014, 09:03:36 AM »
Two Dogs Attcked by wolf

http://idahoforwildlife.com/component/content/article/2-content/42-killer-wolf-in-sun-valley-strikes-again

Long Range Tactical hunters join State and Federal officials in hunt for killer wolf in Sun Valley, Idaho.

http://idahoforwildlife.com/component/content/article/2-content/43-sun-valley-wolf-hunt
« Last Edit: March 01, 2014, 09:23:03 AM by wolfbait »

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Re: Sun Valley colt
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2014, 05:07:00 AM »
I like (not really, but I find it darkly humorous) that they figured the wolves would move on after a week because they thought there was a lack of food and then got surprised when their dogs got hassled. February is the general start of  denning season. Talk about sticking their finger in a light socket and taking a huge chance.

These people were a part of several people who had wolves dumped on them many years ago, and then were forced to adapt. I'm quite sure they know more about wolf behavior then you will probably ever know A-bud. But you just keep telling everyone how wolf-smart you are, and of course your buddies on W-H will drool with anticipation for your next spout of wisdom.

I wonder what you would say if it was your colt, your kid, etc.. When you start getting hurt by the wolves you might have different ideas.

I think they need to become better studies of wolf behavior.
Seems you didn't read the story closely eh?
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Re: Sun Valley colt
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2014, 07:43:48 AM »
I like (not really, but I find it darkly humorous) that they figured the wolves would move on after a week because they thought there was a lack of food and then got surprised when their dogs got hassled. February is the general start of  denning season. Talk about sticking their finger in a light socket and taking a huge chance.

These people were a part of several people who had wolves dumped on them many years ago, and then were forced to adapt. I'm quite sure they know more about wolf behavior then you will probably ever know A-bud. But you just keep telling everyone how wolf-smart you are, and of course your buddies on W-H will drool with anticipation for your next spout of wisdom.

I wonder what you would say if it was your colt, your kid, etc.. When you start getting hurt by the wolves you might have different ideas.

I think they need to become better studies of wolf behavior.
Seems you didn't read the story closely eh?

From the article that started the thread...

"January of this year started out bad in our area. On January 13 we received a call from a close friend that a hunting dog had been killed by wolves just a couple of miles from our home and his advice was to be very careful. Our usual training ground is the canyon behind our ranch as the road is a dead end and receives little traffic making for a great area to work the dogs and keep them in top shape. We refrained from using the area for a week till the danger had passed, as wolves will generally move on without a good prey base. When we again started using the canyon it was obvious there was still a presence of wolves.  The four juvenile females reported to us were still around but gave the dogs a pretty wide birth. Each day that the dogs were worked got more intense and on the sixth day they ambushed the dogs."

They know when the danger of wolves has passed? They know if there is enough to eat for wolves? They didn't consider that they might have a real problem on their hands with wolves appearing within two miles of their home, that their livestock might be viewed as a food source at a time of year when wolves are known to start looking for den sites? They were so lazy that they didn't bother to look for signs of wolves before turning their dogs loose in an area known to have wolves?

They waited one week to use an area that the owner of a hunting dog had warned them about before going there. The Midwestern states publish reported hound/wolf encounters to help people avoid those areas since they're often near dens and rendezvous sites, anyone going such areas with a dog is just asking for it and these folks did the same thing. Maybe Idaho doesn't give the same advice, but those folks walked right into the lion's den in the quoted instance and I have no sympathy.

The colt and border collie(s), that sucks, but given their other actions I have to wonder what's going on out there.

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Re: Sun Valley colt
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2014, 07:53:21 AM »
Loved that she had an AR in the picture.   Did you see the elk harvest numbers posted in that site?  Yikes...  IDFW will need to start killing the wolves to get the numbers back up or out of state hunters will not come. 
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Re: Sun Valley colt
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2014, 11:19:38 PM »
from the story

http://idahoforwildlife.com/component/content/article/2-content/43-sun-valley-wolf-hunt

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USDA Wildlife Services if attempting to locate and destroy the wolf from a plane. The challenge in this country is that the wolves have become educated to what these planes represent. They are able to hear these planes from a great distance and they take cover making them very difficult to hunt from the air.

wow, ducking and taking cover?   I'd figured they'd just run until they were wore out but this is insinuating the wolves are taking cover or hiding when the plane is flying.


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Re: Sun Valley colt
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2014, 06:23:47 AM »
from the story

http://idahoforwildlife.com/component/content/article/2-content/43-sun-valley-wolf-hunt

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USDA Wildlife Services if attempting to locate and destroy the wolf from a plane. The challenge in this country is that the wolves have become educated to what these planes represent. They are able to hear these planes from a great distance and they take cover making them very difficult to hunt from the air.

wow, ducking and taking cover?   I'd figured they'd just run until they were wore out but this is insinuating the wolves are taking cover or hiding when the plane is flying.

I vaguely remember seeing a documentary many years ago in which it was stated wolves were known to split from a pack when chased by hounds in an attempt to break up the scent trail. It was an old documentary so who knows how true it was, but the insinuation was the wolves had figured out how to evade dogs. Some might get caught, but not all.

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Re: Sun Valley colt
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2014, 07:40:48 AM »
Guard dogs, alert canid, range riders and a dead colt.  Great graphs and information.  Pass it around and quote the facts at every opportunity.

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Re: Sun Valley colt
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2014, 08:02:35 AM »
The IDFW needs to adapt too, if wolves are hiding at the noise made by airplanes then move to drones, no noise and one Hell-Fire shot can potentially take out 2 to 3 wolves at a time depending on terrain.

 


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