Michelle Nelson rugging "Beware"

[jackelope]

I didn't get one.

[sled]

I didn't get one.

probably won't for sure now!  Haha

[Jonathan_S]

I have a dirty, cotton drawstring KUIU bag if anybody wants it?

[Bango skank]

Nobody wants your dirty bag

[Jonathan_S]

Nobody wants your dirty bag

  what if I don't mail it out for five years? Then would you want it?

[Michelle_Nelson]

Michelle has a bear hide of mine as well. Dropped off spring of 2012, it was tanned. I stopped back and choose mounting for a rug.
 I Stopped by Michelle's end of December 2014, she advised the hide was in the "wet stage" and ready for the next batch. Sent email May 2015 and was advised again, it was in the next batch. No more contact since, so I stopped by August 2015, she was not there, I left my name and number with her husband (?), asked to have her call. No call back. sent emails and and left messages, no response. I stopped by her house again February 2016, again left message with her husband(?). He said I'll have her call you on Monday. No call back. I have again left a phone message and email. No response. I'd just like the hide back, what ever stage it is in.

Alpinegus, you sir have posted inaccurate information.  I am sure it was intentional considering you were given a copy of the paperwork that YOU signed and received a copy of before leaving.  You also were the one that shot these Bears and prepped the hides and froze them before I got them.

You brought in 2 Bears at the same time on 1/28/2012.  One was a Black (#238) and had been salted by you and frozen 8 months before I received it (I still have the paperwork for this Bear). The second was a Chocolate(#239) that had been rubbed down with pounds of BORAX and frozen 4 months before I received it.  I sent you photos of the slippage on one of the ears.  You wanted me to have both of them Dry Tanned.  You NEVER brought me any Bears that were already TANNED! ! !

Alpinegus can you please tell me what date you picked up your Dry Tanned Black Bear #238?  The one that had a huge scar where the tail was?  The Date was 12/10/12, roughly 10 months after dropping it off.  At which point you changed the paperwork requesting I do a Rug with the Chocolate Bear#239.

I have never used the term in the "Wet-Stage".  That's not even a Taxidermy term.  It's referred to has re hydrated, or wet tanned.  In your case I would have informed you that the Head on your Bear was re hydrated and that it was in the freezer awaiting the head to be put in.

Now onto the subject of communication.  We discussed Felt through E-mail.  I asked you to look at my Website and look at the different color options.  You chose some colors that were not what normally gets requested for Color Phase Bears.  When I was ready to work on the rugging portion of your Bear I went back into my E-mail to get the Colors so I could assemble the Felt.  I could not find the E-mail.  I sent you an E-mail requesting you send me a copy or again tell me what colors you had chosen (multiple times).  I never received a reply.  The Last time you came by the house and I wasn't here, you left your contact info.  Since then:

On 2/26/16 We called and left another Voice Message asking for the E-mail. 
On 2/29/16 we called you again and left a Voice Message asking for the same information.

I am still waiting for a return Phone Call or and E-mail from you containing the information I HAVE NEEDED.  It has been 14 Days since you were called the last time asking for the information. 

I intentionally blocked out Alpinegus's Name and Personal information along with where he killed the Chocolate Bear #239.  Also the majority of the Phone Number.  The public has no right to this info and I won't give it out unless Alpinegus posts it first.  That is a standard in my shop.

[Michelle_Nelson]

Buckhorn2,

I have posted every FB Message / Conversation we have had on FB bellow, so youcan see what i am seeing on my screen.  Which has been our main source ( 95% ) of our communication, outside of the day you and your Son dropped off the Bull.  This is everything I have received and sent to you since you were here dropping off the Bull.  I haven't received anything recently from you.  If I had I would have replied.  I have always replied to your messages in the past and sent you updates. 

I did not know my Inbox on Hunting Washington was full.  I don't think it has ever been full.  I guess I am use to having unlimited room as a mod.  Didn't even think about it.  This is the first I knew about it being full.  I will work on going through some of the messages and getting them cleared out.  Though I do not get on here often to check them.

You said you've tried calling and that my Voice Mail was full.  I do not remember exactly what month it was.  It was probably between October and December.  My VM was full twice.  Two Days and back to back but they were only full for about an hour each day.  I hadn't the time the first day to go through all my old Messages and delete them, I went through the new ones and a few old but it wasn't enough.  That would have to have been the day you tried to call me.  It must have just been that one time (?) because I don't remember seeing any of your Phone Numbers on my caller ID before or after that. 

I've made multiple Calls and Texts to your Son (who shot the Bull) and he has never returned any of them.  I know he runs a fishing/crab operation and totally understand he can be very difficult to get a hold of as a result of being on the Ocean.  I've left messages and Texts.  I didn't feel the need to call him every day and leave messages because I didn't want to fill up his Voice Mail.  Same reasoning for sending him Text's it doesn't fill his Voice Mail.

 You guys gave me $300 when you guys dropped off the Bull.  I've got roughly $1000 into the mount as of right now.  Between the Replacement Cape, Salt, Shipping to and from the Tannery, the Form, and Supplies.  That's not including my labor up to this point.

Please tell me why it is I would ignore a message or call from you if I had seen a message or a Call?    If you would have been able and had left me a Voice Message I would have called you back.  I always have in the past.  It's not as if the Horns could have fallen apart so there really isn't anything that could have been going on to prevent me from returning the messages.  Other than I haven't received any additional FB Messages since I sent you the message about Africa.   


08/03/2012 1:08PM

Buckhorn2: are you healing up.
Michelle: Ohh yes.
Buckhorn2:  Good that looked like it hurt.
Michelle:  It deffinitaly tickled a little.  5 stitches
Buckhorn2:  Be careful hunting season coming
Michelle:  I know.  Not sure I am 100% ready, lol
Michelle:  You guys been bear hunting yet?
Buckhorn2:  Saw about a 150 pound one up a tree last night we have seen 4 but no shooters yet.

09/23/2012 9:02AM

Buckhorn2:  when is your elk hunt.

09/24/2012 3:27PM

Michelle: I don't have one schedualed.  I have the Multi Season Tag.  Not sure if I am going to get any time to use it.

12/11/2012 5:15PM

Michelle: Howdy
Buckhorn2: How are things
Michelle: Things are going alright.
Buckhorn2: Been some rain over here people out clam digging tonight.
Michelle: I've never been clam digging.
Buckhorn2: more fun in the summer.
Michelle:  well I bought a Bison cape a littl while back.  Real nice cape.  but it is borderline as far as if it will be big enough
Buckhorn2: If not hope Dale comes through.
Michelle: but I talked to another taxidermist a few months ago that has 2 at the tannery.  One he thinks might fit the bll.  He won't know until he gets them back some time in January
Buckhorn2: Thanks Michelle
Michelle: How old was the bull your son shot?
Buckhorn2: They never said
Michelle: I was guessing between 7 and 9 y/o I just wanted to check and see if they told you.
I measured the neck on your bull and it was 48".  The cape I bought is around 48", but whether it stays 48" after it is tanned will be the question.  Do you have any pictures of the bull after you killed it that you can E-mail me?
Buckhorn2: I will look.

02/09/2013 5:59PM

Michelle: Hey Del

02/10/2013 8:42AM

Buckhorn2: Hi how you doing did you get over the flu.

02/10/2013 1:10PM

Michelle: Pretty much.  Still hacking though.

Michelle:  I wanted to give you an update on the bison, but some things may have changed today so I will have to get back to you as soon as I hear back from this other taxidermist.  I might have access to 2 more Bison Capes.  I know one is roughy the right size but it has a brown head.  The other one he said is WAY HUGE (not sure on measurments) but I believe has a black head.  Both are mid september capes though.

Michelle: Problem is I think he may have sold one.  He sent me a message and I didn't get it til today about someone else being interested in one of them.  So I am checking back with him.

02/10/2013 3:46PM

Buckhorn2: Thanks Michelle we know it;s hard for you to find one just wish ours was;nt bad.

Michelle: I wish it wasn't either.  It deffinitally would make this a lot easier.  I honestly didn't think it was going to be this difficult to find one.  Your son asked for one with a black head and I want to do everything I can to find it or him.  People that kill big bulls like that tend to want them mounted so there are not a whole lot of capes available.  I promise you your cape was in really bad shape from all the rubbing that bull had done.  You will be able to see the diference I hope once Your sons bull has a new one.  I have 1/2 dozen Cape suppliers on the look out for a Cape.  I am also checking the taxidery Clasifieds every few days for listings on capes.  One of my main concerns is not getting scammed by someone who claims to have one and I either pay for it and not get one or it end up being junk. If it were just a deer cape and $125 that not a big deal but when we are talking $400-$1000 for a bison cape that a hard leason to learn.  Plus I want to find you a quality cape.

01/15/2014 6:06PM

Michelle: Been trying to get ahold of your son.  Ive tried calling a couple times and his voice mail is full and wont accept messagesm. Sent him a text and havnt heard from him.  Figgure he is busy fishing or crabing.  Im ready to get a form ordered I just need to go over poses with him.

01/16/2014 9:22AM

Buckhorn2: He has been out in the ocean crabbing. When he comes in I will have him call you.

01/16/2014 7:09PM

Michelle: Yeah I figured he was busy.  No worries.   Thanks for letting him know.

02/25/2014 5:47PM

Buckhorn2: Do you ever feel like strangling someone. You control your temper better than I could what an ass hat.

02/26/2014 5:45AM
Michelle: How much proof do I have to post in that thread before people will see the guy is lying?  I logged off and I don't have any plans to return until I want to.  I can not believe people believed him.  Its BS.  Trust me it is taking everything g I have not to go on there and cuss him.

BTW, I still have not heard from your son.     I figgure he is real busy.  Don't want to add any undo stress on him.

04/17/2014 9:13PM

Michelle: Want to go to Africa in May 2015?

[Michelle_Nelson]

For what it is worth the rug turned out nice except some permanent creases from it being folded for close to 3 years. She has a room full of tanned hides stacked to the ceiling she isn't working on.

Where exactly did you come up with the 3 year thing?  At most your Bear would have been folded for a couple weeks, maybe a couple months depending on how long it took you to come get it after I told you it was done.  When I mount is completed the customer is notified with in days. Once a Bear is rehydrated and stretched it is not folded until it has been asembled and finnished out.  They lay flat on one of my stretching tables.

 I pointed out the creases if there were some when you came and got it.  I do it for every customer that has a Bear Rug.  Because every Bear Rug gets folded and placed on the Shelf until it is picked up.  This is standard practice in every Taxidermy Shop I have been in.  How many Shops have room to hang a dozen Bears on there walls along with all the shoulder Mounts?

I also instructed you on how to remove the wrinkles.  Did you bother to follow my instructions or did you just hang it up?  I told you that you can lay the Bear Flat and place a couple Books or flat items over the crease for a few days to week.  Depends on the thickness of the leather on the Bear.  That will get rid of the creases.  I also instructed you on how to properly hang, care for, and clean your Rug.  I also told you of the disclaimer that Bear Rugs are NOT actual RUGS, you can't wash them in the Washing Machine. 

[Michelle_Nelson]

Band,

I would be very interested in hearing your detailed account of the Services you received at my shop on 9/7/11. I remember it pretty clear.   

How you were unable to get it to Charlie because he was hunting his Nooksack Elk Tag.  How I got a Phone call requesting my services to cape out the Head on your Elk in your Avatar because you we in a bind.  NO PROBLEM, bring it right over I'll help you out.  Did Charlie have any complaints about the Cape or the job I did capping it out for him?  NOPE!  I even offered to show you step by step how to do it so that if you were ever in a bind again you could do it.  You showed very little interest in learning.  You were walking around my shop and chatting. 

Another thing I remember was my offer to put your cape in my freezer.  You lived an hour plus away from Charlie.  I offered to hold your Cape in my freezer until Charlie got back from his hunt.  That I would deliver your cape to him personally the day he got back.  Before you left, you asked me what you owed me for doing all this for you.  Do you remember what I charged you?  Absolutly NOTHING!

The next day I drove over to Charlies Shop and delivered your cape. 

[Michelle_Nelson]

squeaky wheel gets the grease - I would be squeakin every week until she delivered or begged me to come and pick it up. 

Well depending on when you started squeaking would depend on how long you squeak.  You would be told the same thing I tell everyone.  Your animal doesn't get worked on until the one in front of it does.  I'm not pushing anyone's work ahead of anyone else  unless I have a very good reason other than the fact you can't wait in line.   

Are you saying that if someone complains that there work isn't done yet that you give your taxidermist permission to bump your stuff back and move theirs ahead?  Or does this just apply to everyone else when it doesn't involve you?  What do you think other people think about the squeaky wheel idea when it is there mount being pushed back for the squeaker? 

[Michelle_Nelson]

As for the BBB rating being an "F".  That is because I did not post a response to there complaints.  That is because both individuals gave the wrong contact E-mail and Address to the BBB.  I didn't know about the complaints until 7 days before the deadline to respond was up.  The BBB Called me because I hadn't responded.  When a complaint is made the BBB sends the Business an E-mail letting them know how to respond and such.  The Lady that called verified my business info with me starting with the name of the buisness and then the address.  That's how I knew the address was wrong.  I told her I hadn't gotten an e-mail.  That's how I knew it was wrong.  If I had chosen to respond my rating would have been a "B".  Per the lady on the phone.

[Michelle_Nelson]

Here is the bottom line for anyone considering taking her future work. I'm a past one time client. Michelle does great work when she feels like putting in time on the work. She is willing to take deposits and work knowing full well she can't meet quoted time frames. She will putt off, postpone, and ignore clients and their work that either irritate, bother, or get on her bad side in anyway. She will further make excuses,  pass on the blame, and ignore those who she deems needing ignored. Upon picking up my work she openly bragged about how long she had people's animals as well as the fact that they would not get worked on until she decided she was ready. My own experience resulted in good work that was explained multiple times and in the end rushed to be completed in just the nick of time. I had to stay in constant contact and the entire process was exhausting.

If you have a trophy with her I would strongly suggest you get your stuff back, kiss your deposit goodbye, and find a reputable taxidermist finish the job. The fact that she ignores clients, brags about delaying work, lost her moderator status here for deleting threads just like this one shows her character.

Your full of absolute BS. in everything that you said.

I didn't delete any threads.  There is a spot behind the scenes that only Admin and Moderators can access, the Trash Bin.  If we remove a thread or post from the main Forum it goes into this area.  At that point we can either delete it permanently, or leave it in there for future reference, or we can decide to put it back in the Open Forum.

One of my friends decided it would be funny to start a thread "Asking me to get a hold of him".  He thought it was funny.  I did too but knew, knowing the dingbats on this site, someone would use it as an excuse to create un-needed drama for Me and the Mods.  So I removed it from the Main Forum.  In which case it is supposed to go into the area I just talked about.  One of the Admin sent me a message asking about a Thread that was deleted.  I told them it was in the Trash Bin.  They said it wasn't, it had been deleted.  I went and checked and it wasn't in there.  So someone went in and deleted it permanently.  At which point no one can see the content, only that it had existed.

I removed it from the Main Forum and put it in the Trash Bin.  That way any of the Admins or Mods that questioned it's removal could see the contents and know that it was justified and if they felt so inclined put it back on the Main Forum.  Other than that I have never deleted or modified a thread on this site that a customer started to complain.  I challenge any Admin to prove me a liar in this reguard.  As a Mod I only had limited power.  Even if I had deleted something permanently the Admin could still see that something had been deleted and I believe what the title of the topic was.

[Michelle_Nelson]

It's 2:30 am and I am going to bed. 

[fishngamereaper]

This should get interesting

[Magnum_Willys]

ITs ALIVE !