collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Fishing for Native Steelhead  (Read 46614 times)

Offline 87Ford

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 1324
Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2014, 01:56:52 PM »
It may be legal, but those days are over for me.  I couldn't kill that fish.

Offline wildmanoutdoors

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 2459
  • Location: Port Orchard
Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2014, 01:57:13 PM »
Perfect!  Just need something to complain about I guess then?

Dont see were I was complaining at all. I stated your fish wasent wall worthy. And am happy your done for the year. Your part of the problem. Thats all!

And MntMuley hasent a clue with his comparison. Lol. 


Offline MtnMuley

  • Site Sponsor
  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 8686
  • Location: NCW
Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2014, 02:02:53 PM »
Perfect!  Just need something to complain about I guess then?

Dont see were I was complaining at all. I stated your fish wasent wall worthy. And am happy your done for the year. Your part of the problem. Thats all!

And MntMuley hasent a clue with his comparison. Lol. 



LOL, no different.  Because you choose to disagree with one LEGAL decision a sportsman makes surely doesn't make you in the right. :dunno: 

Offline wildmanoutdoors

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 2459
  • Location: Port Orchard
Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2014, 02:13:07 PM »
Perfect!  Just need something to complain about I guess then?

Dont see were I was complaining at all. I stated your fish wasent wall worthy. And am happy your done for the year. Your part of the problem. Thats all!

And MntMuley hasent a clue with his comparison. Lol. 



LOL, no different.  Because you choose to disagree with one LEGAL decision a sportsman makes surely doesn't make you in the right. :dunno:

In this case legal and right are 2 different things. You obiously dont know why its legal. And why it isnt right. Lets see if you can answer these questions MM.
1. If the river in question hasent met escapement for 6 to 7 years or longer should there be a kill fishery?

2. If a local guide that has a Mom that sits on the Forks city council who overturns a ban on killing native Steelies knowing there isnt one river that has met escapement because it may lessen the fish killing tourists the right decision? Remember these rivers havent met escapement for years and the WDFW knows this too. After all, there the ones who do the counting.

Offline DOUBLELUNG

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 5837
  • Location: Wenatchee
Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2014, 02:17:08 PM »
I really can't stand hunting and fishing Nazis who condemn any legal sportsman (or woman) for legally killing fish and wildlife.  No different than a GD PETAphile throwing red paint on fur coats.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

Offline johnnyaustin44

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 1124
  • Location: Arlington
Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2014, 02:21:00 PM »
I really can't stand hunting and fishing Nazis who condemn any legal sportsman (or woman) for legally killing fish and wildlife.  No different than a GD PETAphile throwing red paint on fur coats.
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

Offline akirkland

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2011
  • Posts: 1409
  • Location: Yelm, Wa
Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2014, 02:21:59 PM »
I'm not gonna bag on ya for bonkin a nate. BUT...if I were in your shoes, I would have taken a handful of pictures and measurements. Then slip her back in the river. Skin mounts don't last as long or look as good. But congrats on a beauty. I'm still chasing the 20 pound mark. Been close, but no cigar.

Offline jackmaster

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Nov 2010
  • Posts: 7011
  • Location: graham
Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2014, 02:25:12 PM »
wow swatson comes on here and posts up a pic of a sweet steeli that anyone of us would be happy to clunk on the head and he gets friggin bashed, WTH DUDE, and people wonder why some hate posting pics on here, and if i remeber right that is what this site is all about right? :dunno: awesome fish SWATSON  :tup:
my grandpa always said "if it aint broke dont fix it"

Offline Swatson

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 693
  • Location: Graham
Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2014, 02:25:21 PM »
Perfect!  Just need something to complain about I guess then?

Dont see were I was complaining at all. I stated your fish wasent wall worthy. And am happy your done for the year. Your part of the problem. Thats all!

And MntMuley hasent a clue with his comparison. Lol.

LOL yea I'm the problem!  Gotta love the internet!  I didn't mean to start a bitch session I was just pretty jacked to catch a big Steely!  I guess if you catch 20+ pounders on a daily occurrence like some of these Legendary fisherman on here then it wouldn't be so special but for me it was a true trophy and I kept it after catch and releasing numerous Steelhead up until this point in my life.  Please forgive me and lets move on!

Offline cbond3318

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2011
  • Posts: 3289
  • Location: Idaho
Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2014, 02:27:33 PM »
Great Fish, don't listen to the ethics board on here, I don't remember you asking for their personal opinion on whether or not to thump a NATIVE.  :tup:
Just tend your own and live.

Offline MtnMuley

  • Site Sponsor
  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 8686
  • Location: NCW
Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2014, 02:33:09 PM »
Perfect!  Just need something to complain about I guess then?

Dont see were I was complaining at all. I stated your fish wasent wall worthy. And am happy your done for the year. Your part of the problem. Thats all!

And MntMuley hasent a clue with his comparison. Lol. 



LOL, no different.  Because you choose to disagree with one LEGAL decision a sportsman makes surely doesn't make you in the right. :dunno:

In this case legal and right are 2 different things. You obiously dont know why its legal. And why it isnt right. Lets see if you can answer these questions MM.
1. If the river in question hasent met escapement for 6 to 7 years or longer should there be a kill fishery?

2. If a local guide that has a Mom that sits on the Forks city council who overturns a ban on killing native Steelies knowing there isnt one river that has met escapement because it may lessen the fish killing tourists the right decision? Remember these rivers havent met escapement for years and the WDFW knows this too. After all, there the ones who do the counting.

1.  No.
2.  No.

Here are two for you?:

1.  If a declining population of quality mature mule deer bucks were in jeopardy because of several factors including baiting during the late general season, do you think it would be wise to reconsider allowing it to still happen?

2.  If the majority of all hunters were in favor of baiting to increase the chances of success even though it might be detrimental to their support and you were one of those that were not in favor, would you still stand your ground for what you thought was right?

I think I know your answers and I totally agree with you on there being a big difference of what's "right" and what's "legal".  However, I will have to continue to accept those late season trophy pics to come in and not publicly bash somebody's decision to take part in something I feel is so wrong, even though it was legal.  Doesn't mean we won't work harder trying to fix the "problems". :twocents:

Offline WSU

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2009
  • Posts: 5501
Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2014, 02:40:01 PM »
There is no good reason to bonk these fish.  The populations routinely fail to meet escapement and everyone, including WDFW, knows it.  Call it "PETAphile" if you wish, but the fact is that you are part of the problem if you are killing fish (or any animal, really) that is part of a population that is trouble.  The same would be true if it were a swan, deer, or whatever.  Killing it may make your ego feel better, it may be legal because the guides want it to be, but neither of those make it the right thing to do.

And, MM, it isn't the same as deer.  There may be areas with unhealthy mule deer populations and some with healthy populations.  Unfortunately, in Washington, we've managed to screw things up to the point where there are no truly healthy steelhead populations.  Continuing to kill them because it is legal is shortsighted.  I do agree with your point that we should be working to fix the legal problem though.

Offline snowpack

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2013
  • Posts: 2522
  • Location: the high country
Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2014, 02:48:32 PM »
Perfect!  Just need something to complain about I guess then?

Dont see were I was complaining at all. I stated your fish wasent wall worthy. And am happy your done for the year. Your part of the problem. Thats all!

And MntMuley hasent a clue with his comparison. Lol.

For the bolded, not exactly.  He can still fish CnR while targeting hatchery fish or springers or resident rainbows.  I know of some guys that are hitting the rivers every week Fri-Sun for CnR and one has caught around 40 wild fish this year.  Statistically, some of them were killed.

Offline steeleywhopper

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2007
  • Posts: 1669
  • Location: Snohomish co.
Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2014, 02:48:48 PM »
 :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
Politicians like Jay Inslee are the reason we have the 2nd Amendment

Offline johnnyaustin44

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 1124
  • Location: Arlington
Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2014, 02:58:10 PM »
Turning into another native bashing thread....... :chuckle:

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal