Just saw SB 5956 passed

[Eli346]

 I've got a 15" pistol grip 12 ga shotgun that is always handy when I'm in the house. I hope I never have to use it!

[Elliott]

but heaven forbid you have an automatic knife in your pocket!   

http://www.sogknives.com/type/new-for-2014/zoom-aluminum-handle-satin.html

Just as good as an auto

[bearpaw]

I'm not sure if this will really change anything, the feds have a 16" minimum barrel length for rifles don't they?

Yes, all Federal laws still apply.

But now you can go through the Federal process and after the background check and fee, posses a legal SBR.

And jackelope they can be very handy for certain kinds of shooting

  I want a short rifle that will fit in my back pack, but I don't want extra paperwork so no gain for me. I will have to investigate folding stocks for hunting rifles, hopefully there is something affordable and lightweight out there.

[Yondering]

I've got a *delete* that is always handy when I'm in the house. I hope I never have to use it!

You might not want to post that online. That's a short barreled shotgun, and will land you in hot water with the ATF. $250,000 and 10 years, doesn't sound worth that 1" shorter to me.

[blackdog]

If the sponsors could have changed federal law they would have. This the best that can be done at the State level.

[PNW_Hunter]

If the sponsors could have changed federal law they would have. This the best that can be done at the State level.

And it's a Damn good job by everyone involved.

Next onto SBSs and Full autos.

[fly-by]

Why is it cool? Do they perform better? Functionality? Look cool? "Just because we can" sort of thing?

Legit question, not trying to be a wise guy.

For those with a suppressor it allows you to cut back the barrel and still end up with a rifle of reasonable overall length.  Otherwise you would have a 30+" barrel+suppressor in most cases.

[PNW_Hunter]

I've got a *delete* that is always handy when I'm in the house. I hope I never have to use it!

You might not want to post that online. That's a short barreled shotgun, and will land you in hot water with the ATF. $250,000 and 10 years, doesn't sound worth that 1" shorter to me.

Not to be nit picky, but its 18" for shotguns so he would be 3 inches too short . No clue why someone would post that on a public forum though.

[blackdog]

http://www.serbu.com/top/superShorty.php Here is another shotgun option with minimal paperwork. It is referred to as a  "any other weapon"

[Elliott]

http://www.serbu.com/top/superShorty.php Here is another shotgun option with minimal paperwork. It is referred to as a  "any other weapon"

Would a "master key" be an AOW then too? You know like an underbarrel shot gun?

[Scvette]

Well this is cool! Short barreled rifles and shotguns are going to be legal here in the Washington state!

I don't believe SB 5956 applied to short barreled shotguns...

You are correct,not for shotguns.....yet! Hopefully they get that passed next.

[DoubleJ]

I've got a *delete* that is always handy when I'm in the house. I hope I never have to use it!

You might not want to post that online. That's a short barreled shotgun, and will land you in hot water with the ATF. $250,000 and 10 years, doesn't sound worth that 1" shorter to me.

Not to be nit picky, but its 18" for shotguns so he would be 3 inches too short . No clue why someone would post that on a public forum though.

If you look at your 10 key number pad on the right of your keyboard, you'll see that the 8 is just above the 5.  I'm sure he was trying to type 18" and instead, accidentally hit the 5

[jay.sharkbait]

I've got a *delete* that is always handy when I'm in the house. I hope I never have to use it!

You might not want to post that online. That's a short barreled shotgun, and will land you in hot water with the ATF. $250,000 and 10 years, doesn't sound worth that 1" shorter to me.

Not to be nit picky, but its 18" for shotguns so he would be 3 inches too short . No clue why someone would post that on a public forum though.

If you look at your 10 key number pad on the right of your keyboard, you'll see that the 8 is just above the 5.  I'm sure he was trying to type 18" and instead, accidentally hit the 5

Yes, but that explanation isn't nearly as dramatic..

[CAMPMEAT]

I've been looking at 7.5 inch AR-15 pistols. Those are legal already.

[jay.sharkbait]

http://www.jgsales.com/yugo-zastava-pap-m92pv-ak-style-pistol,-krinkov-pattern,-7.62x39,-wood-stock,-new.-p-57965.html

I was thinking I would get this and replace the rear trunnion with an AKM pattern trunnion and buttstock and there ya go.......