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Lighted Nocks
« on: March 17, 2014, 10:59:04 AM »
So, we debated this topic ad nauseam on here and they were used last season.  I hear we did not see a statistical increase in hunter success attributable to lighted nocks.  Did anyone else notice the world stopped turning or other effects of lighted nock legality?
« Last Edit: March 17, 2014, 01:46:21 PM by popeshawnpaul »

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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2014, 11:20:16 AM »
 :stirthepot:
I don't really care what the other person uses.
I did notice the debate itself quieted down...
Wont know the harvest reports until they get posted,  :dunno:
probably only more wounded animals, but at least they got their arrows back  :chuckle:
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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2014, 02:12:58 PM »
Useless in my opinion.  We had so many bow hunters wrapped up in the cool factor of lighted nocks and trying to make them legal when we should have been fighting for our seasons back.

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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2014, 08:50:27 PM »
Useless in my opinion.  We had so many bow hunters wrapped up in the cool factor of lighted nocks and trying to make them legal when we should have been fighting for our seasons back.

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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2014, 08:59:37 PM »
 :tup: I am going to try them this year. I couldn't find my pass through arrow last season. I think a lighted nock would have helped me find it. I want it back.

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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2014, 09:06:06 PM »
Useless in my opinion.  We had so many bow hunters wrapped up in the cool factor of lighted nocks and trying to make them legal when we should have been fighting for our seasons back.
Yeah, and the forum has been blown up with thread after thread after thread of fighting to get those seasons back since the nock debate ended too huh. :chuckle:

 If the archery season issue was that high a priority for you and the rest of those that predicted the immanent destruction of archery hunting with the legality of luminoks, then why has there not been a ongoing discussion/thread regarding seasons since then? :chuckle:
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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2014, 09:41:57 PM »
:fire.:

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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2014, 09:49:59 PM »
1 thread down.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=148285
One thread with 24 replies since the luminok passing, ok. :tup: 
« Last Edit: March 19, 2014, 10:07:44 PM by huntnphool »
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Lighted Nocks
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2014, 10:11:52 PM »
That thread is a month old. It's unfortunate that season setting issues take a back seat to the lighted nock non-issue. Archery elk hunters get screwed every year with their non-rut spot and stalk hunting seasons but they can now hunt with lighted nocks.
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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2014, 10:17:26 PM »

1 thread down.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=148285
One thread with 24 replies since the luminok passing, ok. :tup:
You're saying that's the only thread on here re: archery seasons in the last 12 months?
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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2014, 07:34:29 AM »
Useless in my opinion.  We had so many bow hunters wrapped up in the cool factor of lighted nocks and trying to make them legal when we should have been fighting for our seasons back.
Yeah, and the forum has been blown up with thread after thread after thread of fighting to get those seasons back since the nock debate ended too huh. :chuckle:

 If the archery season issue was that high a priority for you and the rest of those that predicted the immanent destruction of archery hunting with the legality of luminoks, then why has there not been a ongoing discussion/thread regarding seasons since then? :chuckle:
I'm not for or against them being legal I don't really care one way or another.  I think most archery guys had their priorities mixed up lighted nocks or better season I'd rather see better seasons.

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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2014, 11:01:23 AM »

1 thread down.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=148285
One thread with 24 replies since the luminok passing, ok. :tup:
You're saying that's the only thread on here re: archery seasons in the last 12 months?
Not at all, just pointing out the fact that the "lighted nock arguement" was used at nauseum, suggesting that we don't have our seasons back because lighted nocks distracted archery hunters focus. My point is, nocks have not been a discussion since, and yet there is very little discussion about what was supposed to be such a dire topic, our seasons.

 I agree the season discussion is important, but don't use the lighted nock debate as a excuse why the seasons are shorter/changed and distracting focus.

 Lighted nocks had nothing to do with the season setting changes for archers, maybe east side modern guys should be blaming them for getting their season cut in half too.
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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2014, 10:03:02 AM »
I don't get the point of this discussion other then a attempt at "I told you so".  Instead how about concentrating on season improvement rather then new toys that don't really matter anyway. 

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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2014, 07:43:53 PM »
I am going to run them this season, same reason as most, lost a pass thru arrow.  At $25 an arrow I would like a chance in the thick stuff here on the Westside.  As far as getting our hunt dates back, I think it has been stated well that archery hunters are outnumbered 3/4 to 1 here in Washington and the state is making too much money off the permit sales for the rifle rut hunts.  I would love to see a later date but as long as the State doesn't see it the way we do then all we can do is try.  What is sad is that money talks louder in most instances than the people who are affected.

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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2014, 11:30:30 PM »
I don't see the correlation between season changes and equipment changes. Apples and oranges. Both fit in the fruit bowl.

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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2014, 07:50:50 AM »
I used them. I liked them I missed my first shot at a deer this year and found my arrow and watched the arrow change course when it hit a twig. And when i shot my deer i got to see my shot placement when she crossed back infront of me. But my fear is some of these guys that shoot at 80+ yrds on a animal that make them feel like they can now shoot up to 100+ yrds :bdid:. Granted i was paying in the yard and was flinging arrows at 100yrds just playing around and it was cool to watch.

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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2014, 03:50:27 AM »
  >:(   So I guess your saying we can't discuss two topics at the same time????  Having a debate about lighted noks and getting seasons back can happen at the same time.    :dunno:   If not what is the topic we get to work on this year?  And really you have no idea after one season, (particularly since they haven't posted any results or impacts from last season) what if any impact the equipment changes will have.  But go ahead and do a nah nah, that'll get everyone on working together again.
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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2014, 03:29:27 PM »
  >:(   So I guess your saying we can't discuss two topics at the same time????  Having a debate about lighted noks and getting seasons back can happen at the same time.    :dunno:   If not what is the topic we get to work on this year?  And really you have no idea after one season, (particularly since they haven't posted any results or impacts from last season) what if any impact the equipment changes will have.  But go ahead and do a nah nah, that'll get everyone on working together again.

Machias, unsure who you were addressing. If it was me, I see multiple topics able to be placed on the table at the same time. Separate issues, separate effort to address them, similar process.

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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2014, 03:38:41 PM »
:stirthepot:
I don't really care what the other person uses.
I did notice the debate itself quieted down...
Wont know the harvest reports until they get posted,  :dunno:
probably only more wounded animals, but at least they got their arrows back  :chuckle:
 :stirthepot:
I personally don't know anybody that used them.
More wounded animals, really? You must be a gun hunter cause any true archery hunter wouldn't make an absurd comment like that.
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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2014, 03:46:34 PM »
I shot mine for the first time last week.  No change in POI so that was good. :tup:  Second it was a lot easier to stay on target and follow the arrow to impact, so better follow through. Finally I could see where I hit, used a burlap target and wow that red popped so if I don't get a pass through I see this as a better way to judge the shot. We all know stuff happens and a 2" point of impact can in some cases make a world of difference.  So I take it as one more tool in my bag. 

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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2014, 03:56:02 PM »
I wish I had used them.  I lost an arrow after blowing a chip shot on an elk and would like my $25 back.

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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2014, 09:29:38 PM »
 I just heard that Pope&Young voted to accept lighted nocks. :rolleyes: :chuckle:
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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2014, 03:41:12 PM »
:stirthepot:
I don't really care what the other person uses.
I did notice the debate itself quieted down...
Wont know the harvest reports until they get posted,  :dunno:
probably only more wounded animals, but at least they got their arrows back  :chuckle:
 :stirthepot:
I personally don't know anybody that used them.
More wounded animals, really? You must be a gun hunter cause any true archery hunter wouldn't make an absurd comment like that.

 :chuckle:
I am about as "True Archery" as it gets, but I guess you did not see the sarcasm in adding the  :chuckle: and  :stirthepot:
But then you obviously are a recent convert to the ways of bowhunting, and of course are an expert...
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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2014, 04:33:48 PM »
The harvest statistics are out.  I've been working on elk but the harvest went down about 3%.  Anyone who rationally looked at itl knew harvest would not increase with them.  Pope and Young just accepted them for entry into their record books.  As far as I'm concerned, the issue is done and over with. 

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Re: Lighted Nocks
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2014, 05:46:18 PM »
As I stated, I do not care what the other guy uses, and the issue really never was about the nocks, it was about electronics.
As long as we, as sportmen, argue about semantics the money grubbers in control will continue to divide and conquer.
Will it really matter what weapon you use when it is dependent on access fees, special permits, raffle and private land ?
Even the great Fred Bear thought that poison pods were the answer to recovery issues, when all it really comes down to is the individual understanding his limitations and having the integrity to abide by them.
I feel that if you must improve your equipment to match your abilities, choose different equipment.
If you want to use the best new gadget or gimmick, that is fine, just remember that "back in the good old days" they did just fine without it.
Dont judge me because I like cedar arrows, real feathers, and a bare bow, and I wont judge you on your mechanical arrow launching device with all the accessories.
it is like getting off the freeway onto a dirt road, then complaining about it not being paved.

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