Lighted Nocks

[kingfisher82]

I used them. I liked them I missed my first shot at a deer this year and found my arrow and watched the arrow change course when it hit a twig. And when i shot my deer i got to see my shot placement when she crossed back infront of me. But my fear is some of these guys that shoot at 80+ yrds on a animal that make them feel like they can now shoot up to 100+ yrds . Granted i was paying in the yard and was flinging arrows at 100yrds just playing around and it was cool to watch.

[Machias]

     So I guess your saying we can't discuss two topics at the same time?  Having a debate about lighted noks and getting seasons back can happen at the same time.       If not what is the topic we get to work on this year?  And really you have no idea after one season, (particularly since they haven't posted any results or impacts from last season) what if any impact the equipment changes will have.  But go ahead and do a nah nah, that'll get everyone on working together again.

[Mumbles]

     So I guess your saying we can't discuss two topics at the same time?  Having a debate about lighted noks and getting seasons back can happen at the same time.       If not what is the topic we get to work on this year?  And really you have no idea after one season, (particularly since they haven't posted any results or impacts from last season) what if any impact the equipment changes will have.  But go ahead and do a nah nah, that'll get everyone on working together again.

Machias, unsure who you were addressing. If it was me, I see multiple topics able to be placed on the table at the same time. Separate issues, separate effort to address them, similar process.

[turkeyfeather]

I don't really care what the other person uses.
I did notice the debate itself quieted down...
Wont know the harvest reports until they get posted, 
probably only more wounded animals, but at least they got their arrows back 
 
I personally don't know anybody that used them.

More wounded animals, really? You must be a gun hunter cause any true archery hunter wouldn't make an absurd comment like that.

[northwesthunter84]

I shot mine for the first time last week.  No change in POI so that was good.   Second it was a lot easier to stay on target and follow the arrow to impact, so better follow through. Finally I could see where I hit, used a burlap target and wow that red popped so if I don't get a pass through I see this as a better way to judge the shot. We all know stuff happens and a 2" point of impact can in some cases make a world of difference.  So I take it as one more tool in my bag. 

[WSU]

I wish I had used them.  I lost an arrow after blowing a chip shot on an elk and would like my $25 back.

[huntnphool]

 I just heard that Pope&Young voted to accept lighted nocks.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

I don't really care what the other person uses.
I did notice the debate itself quieted down...
Wont know the harvest reports until they get posted, 
probably only more wounded animals, but at least they got their arrows back 
 
I personally don't know anybody that used them.

More wounded animals, really? You must be a gun hunter cause any true archery hunter wouldn't make an absurd comment like that.

 
I am about as "True Archery" as it gets, but I guess you did not see the sarcasm in adding the  and 
But then you obviously are a recent convert to the ways of bowhunting, and of course are an expert...

[popeshawnpaul]

The harvest statistics are out.  I've been working on elk but the harvest went down about 3%.  Anyone who rationally looked at itl knew harvest would not increase with them.  Pope and Young just accepted them for entry into their record books.  As far as I'm concerned, the issue is done and over with. 

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

As I stated, I do not care what the other guy uses, and the issue really never was about the nocks, it was about electronics.
As long as we, as sportmen, argue about semantics the money grubbers in control will continue to divide and conquer.
Will it really matter what weapon you use when it is dependent on access fees, special permits, raffle and private land ?
Even the great Fred Bear thought that poison pods were the answer to recovery issues, when all it really comes down to is the individual understanding his limitations and having the integrity to abide by them.
I feel that if you must improve your equipment to match your abilities, choose different equipment.
If you want to use the best new gadget or gimmick, that is fine, just remember that "back in the good old days" they did just fine without it.
Dont judge me because I like cedar arrows, real feathers, and a bare bow, and I wont judge you on your mechanical arrow launching device with all the accessories.
it is like getting off the freeway onto a dirt road, then complaining about it not being paved.

[Rainier10]

it is like getting off the freeway onto a dirt road, then complaining about it not being paved.

I love this statement. Very true.

[turkeyfeather]

I don't really care what the other person uses.
I did notice the debate itself quieted down...
Wont know the harvest reports until they get posted, 
probably only more wounded animals, but at least they got their arrows back 
 
I personally don't know anybody that used them.

More wounded animals, really? You must be a gun hunter cause any true archery hunter wouldn't make an absurd comment like that.

 
I am about as "True Archery" as it gets, but I guess you did not see the sarcasm in adding the  and 
But then you obviously are a recent convert to the ways of bowhunting, and of course are an expert...

I saw your emoticons, but I still think it was a very un-wise comment to make as it just continues to stir the pot and divide sportsman. And no I am not a recent convert and have no idea why you would think that I think I am an expert. I have never made any claim to the sort.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

I saw your emoticons, but I still think it was a very un-wise comment to make as it just continues to stir the pot and divide sportsman. And no I am not a recent convert and have no idea why you would think that I think I am an expert. I have never made any claim to the sort.

Sarcasm in a topic that has been beaten to death, without most of the persons voicing opinions about something they really dont understand seems to me directly in the spirit of the OP...
As to an un-wise comment...
It is my firm beleif, as a bowhunter, that anybody who is concerned about using a lighted nock, is concerned about arrow recovery.
If you do not know where your arrow is going to go upon release (or even a bullet, or any projectile) then you have no business letting it fly...
Jokes, sarcasm, and plain stupidity has been rampant in the argumaent for/against lighted nocks, when the only real issue has been about electronic devices allowed during an archery season.
When you spend a lot of money for your arrow, no matter what they are made from, the ability to recover said arrow makes sense, but if you have nothing to lose but an arrow, and can eliminate the option then you just might go ahead and take a last light shot (after all that is what the thing is designed for)
As a person who was bowhunting before it was cool, I see the march of progress turn a sport that was made possible by sportsmen (and women) who wanted to preserve the integrity of archery into a competition of who could buy the best equipment and be able to brag about putting into the X ring, losing the whole concept of why there is an archery season in the first place.
Un-wise is the constant complaining about how unfair it is you cannot use whatever you feel is your "right" If it were not for Glenn StCharles, Roy Case, and Kore Duryee, we would be hunting during "general season" as it WAS taken away, and fought for to get back......without placing limitations, it would not have been given back.
If we eliminate all the restrictions, who is going to go argue with the WDFW that we deserve a special season ?
Archery is no longer a sport of self sufficient outdoorsmen, who build their own equipment, and survive in the elements, but a sport of chest thumping walking advertisements for Cabelas.
"traditional" has become an "elitist" attitude, with custom made bows from the newest technology, looking down and belittling those who use "training wheels" and sights, when the whole basis began with a few just attempting to prove that a bow was more than a toy, but a viable hunting weapon.
Bows have evolved, the whole industry has evolved, but when there are whole threads complaining about hunting shows and the crass commercialism, that is the price we pay for losing focus on why we hunt with archery equipment in the first place.
I do not care why you hunt with archery equipment, I do not care what equipment you use, I just feel that if you use your equipment as an excuse for your lack of success, maybe you should try something else.
(and claiming you know what a "true archery hunter" is after 5 years of archery hunting...) 

[turkeyfeather]

I saw your emoticons, but I still think it was a very un-wise comment to make as it just continues to stir the pot and divide sportsman. And no I am not a recent convert and have no idea why you would think that I think I am an expert. I have never made any claim to the sort.

Sarcasm in a topic that has been beaten to death, without most of the persons voicing opinions about something they really dont understand seems to me directly in the spirit of the OP...
As to an un-wise comment...
It is my firm beleif, as a bowhunter, that anybody who is concerned about using a lighted nock, is concerned about arrow recovery.

Damn right I want my arrow back. You may be made of money, but I am not. And if I can prevent throwing a $20 bill away I am all for it.

If you do not know where your arrow is going to go upon release (or even a bullet, or any projectile) then you have no business letting it fly...

Know your contradicting yourself. Which is it? Do people want nocks to recover their arrow or to be able to take ill advised shots? I can assure you when I let an arrow go I am pretty confident in the area it is going (however....poop happens) and sometimes even though the arrow went exactly where you intended it to you still can't find it.

When you spend a lot of money for your arrow, no matter what they are made from, the ability to recover said arrow makes sense, but if you have nothing to lose but an arrow, and can eliminate the option then you just might go ahead and take a last light shot (after all that is what the thing is designed for)

Truly ignorant comment. No that is not what they were designed for, but clearly shows your traditional elitest attitude. As far as the rest of your statement, excuse me that I didn't grow up in a hunting household and it wasn't until I was older in life that I wanted to learn something new to pass onto my boys. The fact that you think I don't know what I am talking about because I have not hunted my whole life and am therefore beneath you just again shows your arrogant, elitest attitude. It's people like you that are actually killing the future of hunting. And by my definition a "true" archery hunter is accepting of all those that enjoy the various forms and disciplines.

[BABackcountryBwhntr]

That thread is a month old. It's unfortunate that season setting issues take a back seat to the lighted nock non-issue. Archery elk hunters get screwed every year with their non-rut spot and stalk hunting seasons but they can now hunt with lighted nocks.

the seasons are not great, but they are not awful either.. bulls are buggling most days where we hunt.