The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”

[wolfbait]

Wolfbait, anyone who disagrees with him is a conspiracy theorist or wears a tinfoil hat.

He just wants to control the message P-Man, we have seen this with others over the years.

I only call people tinfoil hat folks when they spout garbage with no factual basis and they have to resort to wild conspiracies and secrets to justify their statements...I call a spade a spade.  Sorry it doesn't fit into your little view where you post something and a bunch of lemmings follow you over a cliff. 

By the way, why don't you explain to me why conservation easements are such a bad thing as reported in that link you posted wolfbait?

I've got it. Anyone who disagrees with you "wears tinfoil hats", a "lemming with a little view", or a "conspiracy theorist". Great. Elitist much?

THE WILDLANDS PROJECT  http://nwri.org/the-wildlands-project/

The information above shows the reasoning behind the "habitat" push by the agenda driven pro-wolf crowd. It's no wonder they scream when it hits the light of day.

[jasnt]

Seems I struck a nerve.  I stand by my beliefs. 

[idahohuntr]

Wolfbait, anyone who disagrees with him is a conspiracy theorist or wears a tinfoil hat.

He just wants to control the message P-Man, we have seen this with others over the years.

I only call people tinfoil hat folks when they spout garbage with no factual basis and they have to resort to wild conspiracies and secrets to justify their statements...I call a spade a spade.  Sorry it doesn't fit into your little view where you post something and a bunch of lemmings follow you over a cliff. 

By the way, why don't you explain to me why conservation easements are such a bad thing as reported in that link you posted wolfbait?

I've got it. Anyone who disagrees with you "wears tinfoil hats", a "lemming with a little view", or a "conspiracy theorist". Great. Elitist much?

How about you speak for yourself and stop putting words in my mouth     Shouldn't you be out submitting FOIA's for all the public officials who are releasing public information anyways?     

Oh, and since you feel so inclined to defend your buddy wolfbait, can you tell me why Conservation Easements are such a horrible thing as described in the link he posted?  Nobody seems to want to tackle that one.

[pianoman9701]

The governor of ID is calling for the "extermination" of many of the state's wolves. Things aren't going so well there with the new "balance" to nature I see.

[pianoman9701]

Not sticking up for anyone. Just making an observation. You just continue going along in lala land with the Defenders, HSUS, and the CBD. Have a nice day. Really done with you.

[AspenBud]

Conservation easements are an incredibly useful tool for protecting wildlife habitat while compensating willing land owners.  You've got to be a serious nutjob to see a whole lot of downside to conservation easements if you hunt.  If you are a large real-estate mogul however...they are the devil.

As I said, wolfbait does not care about hunting or any end to it. Neither do a lot of the people trying to lure hunters into the wolf debate. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't paying attention.

If you got rid of the wolf today he and his like minded buddies would sell hunters out in a heartbeat if it benefited him.

This is about land and livestock. Not hunting.

[wolfbait]

Conservation easements are an incredibly useful tool for protecting wildlife habitat while compensating willing land owners.  You've got to be a serious nutjob to see a whole lot of downside to conservation easements if you hunt.  If you are a large real-estate mogul however...they are the devil.

As I said, wolfbait does not care about hunting or any end to it. Neither do a lot of the people trying to lure hunters into the wolf debate. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't paying attention.

If you got rid of the wolf today he and his like minded buddies would sell hunters out in a heartbeat if it benefited him.

This is about land and livestock. Not hunting.

Actually A-bud the end results is about land, after the wolves ruin the hunting, ranching and make it undesirable for people to go camping or live in rural areas what will be left?

[idahohuntr]

Conservation easements are an incredibly useful tool for protecting wildlife habitat while compensating willing land owners.  You've got to be a serious nutjob to see a whole lot of downside to conservation easements if you hunt.  If you are a large real-estate mogul however...they are the devil.

As I said, wolfbait does not care about hunting or any end to it. Neither do a lot of the people trying to lure hunters into the wolf debate. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't paying attention.

If you got rid of the wolf today he and his like minded buddies would sell hunters out in a heartbeat if it benefited him.

This is about land and livestock. Not hunting.

Actually A-bud the end results is about land, after the wolves ruin the hunting, ranching and make it undesirable for people to go camping or live in rural areas what will be left?

So when will the wolves ruin hunting, ranching, camping, and living in rural areas? 5 more years? 100 more years?? when?  Wolves were reintroduced in Idaho 18 years ago...nearly two decades...their population numbers are decreasing from highs in 2009 yet there is still a ton of hunting, ranching, camping and rural living over in Idaho.  Seems the plan is not going very well for those devious greenies who planned to end all of these activities with the big bad wolf    Or maybe all the wolf whackos exaggerated the outcomes of wolf re-introduction and the back-peddling will commence soon...or will they double down on crazy hysteria 

[Broker]

http://wdfw.wa.gov/news/apr0114c/
ESA strikes again! 

It's just too bad that one group can hold everyone else hostage this way. 


 

[Axle]

Wolfbait - keep up the good work 
It must be difficult to keep positive when all the name calling is going on by people who can't actually bring something worthwhile to the discussion.
Year after year it amazes me at what is happening not only to our hunting opportunities, but to our basic liberties. As many of us know, the unlawful wolf introduction was done to run people off ranches, end hunting opportunities, and basically destroy a food source (our wild ungulates) which they are successfully doing right before our eyes.  I have several friends who quit hunting Idaho due to elk numbers being so low.
I don't know of any other person on this forum that has exposed as much fraud, lies, and corruption in the wolf issue as you have. God bless you my friend! And keep up the good fight 

[WAcoyotehunter]

Conservation easements are an incredibly useful tool for protecting wildlife habitat while compensating willing land owners.  You've got to be a serious nutjob to see a whole lot of downside to conservation easements if you hunt.  If you are a large real-estate mogul however...they are the devil.

As I said, wolfbait does not care about hunting or any end to it. Neither do a lot of the people trying to lure hunters into the wolf debate. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't paying attention.

Conservation easements are an incredibly useful tool for protecting wildlife habitat while compensating willing land owners.  You've got to be a serious nutjob to see a whole lot of downside to conservation easements if you hunt.  If you are a large real-estate mogul however...they are the devil.

As I said, wolfbait does not care about hunting or any end to it. Neither do a lot of the people trying to lure hunters into the wolf debate. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't paying attention.

Conservation easements are an incredibly useful tool for protecting wildlife habitat while compensating willing land owners.  You've got to be a serious nutjob to see a whole lot of downside to conservation easements if you hunt.  If you are a large real-estate mogul however...they are the devil.

As I said, wolfbait does not care about hunting or any end to it. Neither do a lot of the people trying to lure hunters into the wolf debate. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't paying attention.

If you got rid of the wolf today he and his like minded buddies would sell hunters out in a heartbeat if it benefited him.

This is about land and livestock. Not hunting.

If you got rid of the wolf today he and his like minded buddies would sell hunters out in a heartbeat if it benefited him.

This is about land and livestock. Not hunting.

If you got rid of the wolf today he and his like minded buddies would sell hunters out in a heartbeat if it benefited him.

This is about land and livestock. Not hunting.

interesting idea... you might be right though.  I dont think I've seen too many wolfbait posts that talk about hunting.  And i cannot think of a singe hunting photo he has ever posted....
Wolfbait- do you hunt? Do you just hang out here to seek affirmation from otheramti wolf folks?  Honest question.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Actually A-bud the end results is about land, after the wolves ruin the hunting, ranching and make it undesirable for people to go camping or live in rural areas what will be left?

Hilarious!

Alaska has about 10,000 wolves and in the 30+ years I lived there I don't remember anyone who gave up camping because of them. In fact, I never heard anyone who went camping express a concern about them. And the hunting is pretty good. Especially if you get away from the crowds.

And Canada..... Canada has 50,000 to 60,000 wolves and not only do they camp up there, the hunting is pretty darn good, and there are successful ranches all over the place. Never heard of a person moving away from Canada because of wolves.

But keep up the funny stuff!

[Elkaholic daWg]

And with this posted by yourself, please tell us how the grey is, or ever was endangered, and why they are or ever were needed in Washington, or in the lower 48? The introduced sub specie has undoubtedly made the native species truly extinct by now.

Actually A-bud the end results is about land, after the wolves ruin the hunting, ranching and make it undesirable for people to go camping or live in rural areas what will be left?

Hilarious!

Alaska has about 10,000 wolves and in the 30+ years I lived there I don't remember anyone who gave up camping because of them. In fact, I never heard anyone who went camping express a concern about them. And the hunting is pretty good. Especially if you get away from the crowds.

And Canada..... Canada has 50,000 to 60,000 wolves and not only do they camp up there, the hunting is pretty darn good, and there are successful ranches all over the place. Never heard of a person moving away from Canada because of wolves.

But keep up the funny stuff!

[wolfbait]

Conservation easements are an incredibly useful tool for protecting wildlife habitat while compensating willing land owners.  You've got to be a serious nutjob to see a whole lot of downside to conservation easements if you hunt.  If you are a large real-estate mogul however...they are the devil.

As I said, wolfbait does not care about hunting or any end to it. Neither do a lot of the people trying to lure hunters into the wolf debate. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't paying attention.

Conservation easements are an incredibly useful tool for protecting wildlife habitat while compensating willing land owners.  You've got to be a serious nutjob to see a whole lot of downside to conservation easements if you hunt.  If you are a large real-estate mogul however...they are the devil.

As I said, wolfbait does not care about hunting or any end to it. Neither do a lot of the people trying to lure hunters into the wolf debate. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't paying attention.

Conservation easements are an incredibly useful tool for protecting wildlife habitat while compensating willing land owners.  You've got to be a serious nutjob to see a whole lot of downside to conservation easements if you hunt.  If you are a large real-estate mogul however...they are the devil.

As I said, wolfbait does not care about hunting or any end to it. Neither do a lot of the people trying to lure hunters into the wolf debate. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't paying attention.

If you got rid of the wolf today he and his like minded buddies would sell hunters out in a heartbeat if it benefited him.

This is about land and livestock. Not hunting.

If you got rid of the wolf today he and his like minded buddies would sell hunters out in a heartbeat if it benefited him.

This is about land and livestock. Not hunting.

If you got rid of the wolf today he and his like minded buddies would sell hunters out in a heartbeat if it benefited him.

This is about land and livestock. Not hunting.

interesting idea... you might be right though.  I dont think I've seen too many wolfbait posts that talk about hunting.  And i cannot think of a singe hunting photo he has ever posted....
Wolfbait- do you hunt? Do you just hang out here to seek affirmation from otheramti wolf folks?  Honest question.

Thats quite the push back on a topic that you say is BS>I remember back in 09 you were defending the wolves and spouting more habitat then also. kind of funny how you don't defend the wolves now as you did then but are up in arms about the Wildlands Project, and of course you are back to discrediting the messenger instead debate. 

The wolf issue is not all about hunting, it will eventually affect everyone in some way. As far as whether I hunt or not, you have never taken an interest in the past, and I'm quite sure you don't really care now.

[wolfbait]

And with this posted by yourself, please tell us how the grey is, or ever was endangered, and why they are or ever were needed in Washington, or in the lower 48? The introduced sub specie has undoubtedly made the native species truly extinct by now.

Actually A-bud the end results is about land, after the wolves ruin the hunting, ranching and make it undesirable for people to go camping or live in rural areas what will be left?

Hilarious!

Alaska has about 10,000 wolves and in the 30+ years I lived there I don't remember anyone who gave up camping because of them. In fact, I never heard anyone who went camping express a concern about them. And the hunting is pretty good. Especially if you get away from the crowds.

And Canada..... Canada has 50,000 to 60,000 wolves and not only do they camp up there, the hunting is pretty darn good, and there are successful ranches all over the place. Never heard of a person moving away from Canada because of wolves.

But keep up the funny stuff!

Also could you tell us why both Canada and Alaska use aerial hunting to control wolves decimating caribou etc., and why they have bounties, trap and hunt wolves extensively. You have noticed that they don't use the failed techniques that WDFW are pushing, they don't do study after study on the same wolf.  And explain to all of us the expansion of Alaska compared to say, WA? After all WDFW has a set number of wolves before delisting, how many wolves can WA truly support knowing what we know today? How many wolves will WA truly have before WDFW are forced to confirm the BP"s needed to delist?

Why are WDFW and environmentalists buying up so much land? After wolves go through an area there is plentiful habitat, as there is very little game left. Like parts of Idaho, no one hunts where there are no more elk.