New truck towing capacity

[sirmissalot]

I talked to Toyota dealership and they told me the boat would be no problem, if I were planning on doing it on a weekly basis then a diesel pickup would be better but as often as I'm wanting to tow he thought it wouldn't be an issue. That was no surprise to me though, he's trying to sell Toyotas not dodges.

I did originally consider the f150 with ecoboost but tow capacity is similar to the tundra and I've got such a sour taste in my mouth from the last ford purchase I'd like to be done with them for good.

I'm not really leaning either way at this point. I would much rather get a cummins as far as power, longevity and fuel economy. But I like the size of the tundra better, less expensive right off the bat and less expensive (I'm assuming) in the long run as far as up keep, maintence, tires etc.

I think my next step is going to be going to the dealerships and pricing them out. A friend of mine bought a dodge cummins from Dave smith last year for about 40k out the door... That would be a pretty tough deal to beat.

[Caseyd]

Diesel.

Sell the Tacoma and sick liter, replace with new 3/4 ton and commuter car.

You'll be money ahead in the long run

Just buy the diesel and use it as your everyday car.  My 06 dodge gets 18-22 mpg, which is not much better than most cars.   The Diesel engine will last forever so why buy one and let it sit.....one of the worst things you can do to a diesel.  One vehicle, one payment, one insurance and drive it till it blows up at about 500,000 miles. 

Thats exactly what I would prefer to do if I go the cummins route, but I hadn't heard of people getting fuel mileage that good with the newer motors.

Cousins 2010 gets around 22

[Caseyd]

Diesel.

Sell the Tacoma and sick liter, replace with new 3/4 ton and commuter car.

You'll be money ahead in the long run

Just buy the diesel and use it as your everyday car.  My 06 dodge gets 18-22 mpg, which is not much better than most cars.   The Diesel engine will last forever so why buy one and let it sit.....one of the worst things you can do to a diesel.  One vehicle, one payment, one insurance and drive it till it blows up at about 500,000 miles. 

I'm not saying let it sit there and deteriorate.

My commuter gets 32mpg, saves on maintenance costs (tires, oil changes, ball joints, fuel) that people complain about. Make that truck last longer 

[C-Money]

This kinda reminds me of the standard cartridge guys getting beat up by the magnum cartridge guys. Gas vs Diesel.

If the new Tundras catch your eye, talk to the dealer. See what they think about towing your boat. All I know is, our Tundra towed better than I ever thought it would. I tow with my F-350 V-10 now. If anyone questions the V-10s life longevity, as a mechanic at a bus garage. They rack up crazy mileage on those motors and the V-10 has a VERY solid reputation. I've had diesels, they work great, but I was under mine a lot with tools. No where near the maintenance issues with my gas pick up.

If the OP wants to look at a gas pickup, there are options available to meet his needs.

You must have owned a ford diesel...

I do agree the V10's are bullet proof.  They just get horrible fuel economy.

Yup, it was a Ford. I loved that pickup. Only reason I traded is no one would put in a new motor for me cause the truck its self was to old. Shops didn't want to be attached to it.  So...I traded.

I really like the Cummins, Brother in law has one, and its a beast. I catch a lot of crap from him about how much better his Cummins pulls, blah blah blah, but we seem to always get to where we are going at about the same time.

FF4607s family uses the Cummins/Dodge pickups on their farm, and they are very happy with them as well.

[Ccortez]

I talked to Toyota dealership and they told me the boat would be no problem, if I were planning on doing it on a weekly basis then a diesel pickup would be better but as often as I'm wanting to tow he thought it wouldn't be an issue. That was no surprise to me though, he's trying to sell Toyotas not dodges.

I did originally consider the f150 with ecoboost but tow capacity is similar to the tundra and I've got such a sour taste in my mouth from the last ford purchase I'd like to be done with them for good.

I'm not really leaning either way at this point. I would much rather get a cummins as far as power, longevity and fuel economy. But I like the size of the tundra better, less expensive right off the bat and less expensive (I'm assuming) in the long run as far as up keep, maintence, tires etc.

I think my next step is going to be going to the dealerships and pricing them out. A friend of mine bought a dodge cummins from Dave smith last year for about 40k out the door... That would be a pretty tough deal to beat.

Going to Dave smiths myself at the end of the year to get a dodge. I have a gas motor now and just would like to have a diesel so I'm not as hard on the motor from hauling trailers up and over the pass as much as i do,and I want something that will last a long time

[CAMPMEAT]

I owned semi trucks for 10 years, but never owned a diesel pickup. I bought nice, new 4x4 gas pots, with all the bells and whistles. I towed my travel trailer while working out of Maple Valley over Snoqualmie and thought that was good until the motor started derating in my 2010 F150 4x4. Gas trucks aren't really setup for serious towing.

I bought a new 2013 Duramax and is all I can tell you is, I wish I would of bought one a long time ago. Allison 6 spd tranny, 720 (?) foot pounds of torque and around 390 hp. I'm getting 15 + miles per gallon and it's getting better. I also pull an 8.5 foot loaded camper and an 18 foot ATV trailer with 2 quads on top of that. Tundra won't do that. GO DIESEL, no matter what brand it is.......

[Bofire]

Its not that diesels pull better or worse(obviously better more powerful when towing) but the 99% of the use I put on my truck, with NOT towing that counts. My 2010 Chev has 120,000 miles, 5000 might be towing. The better towing for that low of percentage means nothing.
Carl

[Buzz2401]

Get a denali HD with the 6.2L gasser they are super sweet and have a ton of torque.

Or if you are looking older get a 8.1L with the allison.

[gasman]

I bought a 03 Ram 2500 with Hemi in 05, had 20K miles o it and now have 150K miles and many of those miles are towing. I have a 10' camper and tow my jeep behind it. I go over the passes several times a year and work that truck to the bone. works great  but wish I would have went with the Deisel 

like said all ready, once you buy a gas truck for towing, you will wish you got a diesel 

If not a Cummings, the Duramax would be next in line 

[Mudman]

Cummins.  Tundra is probably best choice for gas.  I like the pre emmision 5.9 cummins.  Tune it and 400hp 800lb torque easily pulls everything.  Of course more power is a touch of a button but for play not work.  No gasser Tundra going to keep up with me. I pull a dump trailer loaded at whatever speed I want.  Same with loaded truck and 27ft trailer. Blewitt may cause more pedal but any speed is easily reached.  Sluggish?  Spool the turbo.  12-14 mpg towing. The bad are auto trans. Enough said.

[rtspring]

Tundra, then you won't have to listen to that dang rattling diesel. 

I am putting a supercharger in mine that will give any diesel out there a run for the money!! 5 grand power on demand...

If you go diesel I would go dodge. 

[jrebel]

sirmissalot

Go buy this and you will never regret it.  Hands down the best ford motor ever build.  This truck will go another 300K and never miss a beat.  If I was in the market for another rig this one would be sold. 

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,150478.msg1998304.html#msg1998304

If it doesn't fit the bill go buy a cummins

[HuntandFish]

If your worried about maintenance cost of a diesel one thing to consider is the new diesels require oil changes only every 7-10k miles unlike gas engines. The other maintence costs are there but they are negligible...

9k lbs is too much to tow with a tundra in my opinion, just cause the sticker says it will does not make it safe or good for your truck. Get whatever you want but know what you are getting and what it is designed to do so you are not disappointed.

Good luck!
H&F

[Rick]

Diesel.

Sell the Tacoma and sick liter, replace with new 3/4 ton and commuter car.

You'll be money ahead in the long run

Just buy the diesel and use it as your everyday car.  My 06 dodge gets 18-22 mpg, which is not much better than most cars.   The Diesel engine will last forever so why buy one and let it sit.....one of the worst things you can do to a diesel.  One vehicle, one payment, one insurance and drive it till it blows up at about 500,000 miles. 

Thats exactly what I would prefer to do if I go the cummins route, but I hadn't heard of people getting fuel mileage that good with the newer motors.

Cousins 2010 gets around 22

Not a chance it gets 22 stock. EGR and DPF delete with a tuner to trick the truck thinking that stuff is still there maybe.

[Wanttohuntmore]

I tow 7500 lbs with my 08 tundra, always over vantage hill.  I can easily do 70 up it.  I won't type how fast it can do on a public forum.  My trailer is a toyhauler, so shaped like a big sail.  Not the best mpg at 7-9, but plenty of power.  E rated toyos for tires really made it track nicer with a load.  I think for your purpose a tundra would be fine.  Though I really like a diesel, it didn't make sense for my uses.  My dad runs a cummins so I'm very familiar with them too.  Also, check out the big brakes on a tundra.  Definitely over built.  They just need a stronger frame, springs, and 8 lugs, then they will sell more.