New truck towing capacity

[wildmanoutdoors]

Why hit a big nail with a smallest rated hammer? The Tundra has 400 ft/lb of torque. Thats nothing compared to the Cummins and the like.
A gas engine will do it but at what cost to the engine and transmition working it to max?

9000 pound boat is a big load!

Kinda like the folks you see towing a 22 foot camping trailer or 24 foot Bayliner with a Explorer.

I understand, but why buy a big hammer to pound big nails when most of the year you're driving finish nails?

The trailer has its own brakes, and the truck tires will have the same load rating as my F350 has, so that's irrelevant.

It would be one thing if I fished like I used to, towing the boat all over the coast from Neah Bay to Ilwaco, but I just don't anymore. Most of the summer it sits in a slip in Westport, and for the one or two trips up the coast I was thinking a gas engine would do just fine. My camp trailer weighs just 3,000lbs so like I said even my Tacoma can tow it over snoqualmie without an issue.

RTspring, have you towed anything with yours yet?

You already said you own a finish hammer.  Why buy another?

[WSU]

Just got the 5.7 tundra a few months ago.  It has a ton and I mean a ton of power! I also got into a little drag race with my boss and his cummins, same story It wasnt even close.  Yes the diesel has more torque but the 5.7 will tos that boat with ease..  I was also on 35's while he was on stock tires.

Ive owned plenty of trucks, fords mostly but the Tundra will out do any I have owned by a mile!!!!

Rtspring

If your gonna but a truck for racing get a Hemi with .488's. Not a Tundra.

Put 10000 behind that Toy and the Dodge and race up the vantage hill and see where your Toy is then!

These drag race comparisons are completely irrelevant to towing. Lol

I guess it depends on if you want to use your truck like a truck or like a car?

[jrebel]

#1 choice hands down is a Dodge diesel....

#2 choice is a very close second to the Dodge and it is a DODGE DIESEL.....

A 9000 lbs boat is a heavy load.....so I like the Dodge diesel for your towing options. 

Any other questions???

[sirmissalot]

You already said you own a finish hammer.  Why buy another?

That's part of what I'm hoping to do with something like a Tundra, eliminate having a $20,000 small truck I use everyday and a $60,000 truck I use occasionally. Insurance for two trucks isn't too bad with multi car discount but still, it would be nice to get rid of one. Obviously if money wasn't an issue I would have a couple trucks and a car but that's not really feasible at the moment. 

[rtspring]

Why hit a big nail with a smallest rated hammer? The Tundra has 400 ft/lb of torque. Thats nothing compared to the Cummins and the like.
A gas engine will do it but at what cost to the engine and transmition working it to max?

9000 pound boat is a big load!

Kinda like the folks you see towing a 22 foot camping trailer or 24 foot Bayliner with a Explorer.

I understand, but why buy a big hammer to pound big nails when most of the year you're driving finish nails?

The trailer has its own brakes, and the truck tires will have the same load rating as my F350 has, so that's irrelevant.

It would be one thing if I fished like I used to, towing the boat all over the coast from Neah Bay to Ilwaco, but I just don't anymore. Most of the summer it sits in a slip in Westport, and for the one or two trips up the coast I was thinking a gas engine would do just fine. My camp trailer weighs just 3,000lbs so like I said even my Tacoma can tow it over snoqualmie without an issue.

RTspring, have you towed anything with yours yet?

23 foot travel trailer loaded.  Not sure of the weight but I ran up cabbage hill easily with that load.

I agree big diffrence in horsepower and Torque..  I would have no issue towing a boat at 9000 pounds.   Sure a diesel would have more pulling power but the offset in maint for a diesel is a killer for me. 

[whacker1]

It sounds like you need another 3/4 ton or better for braking more than anything.  We tow our boat 6500-7000lbs with a 1/2 ton, and it is not ideal in the braking.  Luckily we only tow it a few times per year. 

If you went Gas on the Ford 6.2 l, Chevy 6.0 or Dodge 5.7 you would probably be fine as long as it has the lower gears.  Most of the new pickups 2011 and newer are coming with the heavy transmission 6 speed automatics with a low first gear anyway on the gas version as well as the Diesel.

But I think you would prefer the Diesel.  Obviously there is a cost differential.

I would lean toward 3/4 ton and then it is just do you want to pay for the Diesel or not.

[6x6in6]

Should I just go with a Cummins and not worry about it?

Yes!
It won't take very long after you purchase a gas powered truck to post a new thread titled "Why Did I Go Gas Powered". 

[wildmanoutdoors]

You already said you own a finish hammer.  Why buy another?

That's part of what I'm hoping to do with something like a Tundra, eliminate having a $20,000 small truck I use everyday and a $60,000 truck I use occasionally. Insurance for two trucks isn't too bad with multi car discount but still, it would be nice to get rid of one. Obviously if money wasn't an issue I would have a couple trucks and a car but that's not really feasible at the moment.

It sounded like you were keeping the Tacoma. If it were me Id also opt for a 3/4 ton full size gas then. If you dont want to spend the extra on a Desiel.

[Caseyd]

Diesel.

Sell the Tacoma and sick liter, replace with new 3/4 ton and commuter car.

You'll be money ahead in the long run

[jrebel]

Diesel.

Sell the Tacoma and sick liter, replace with new 3/4 ton and commuter car.

You'll be money ahead in the long run

Just buy the diesel and use it as your everyday car.  My 06 dodge gets 18-22 mpg, which is not much better than most cars.   The Diesel engine will last forever so why buy one and let it sit.....one of the worst things you can do to a diesel.  One vehicle, one payment, one insurance and drive it till it blows up at about 500,000 miles. 

[sirmissalot]

Diesel.

Sell the Tacoma and sick liter, replace with new 3/4 ton and commuter car.

You'll be money ahead in the long run

Just buy the diesel and use it as your everyday car.  My 06 dodge gets 18-22 mpg, which is not much better than most cars.   The Diesel engine will last forever so why buy one and let it sit.....one of the worst things you can do to a diesel.  One vehicle, one payment, one insurance and drive it till it blows up at about 500,000 miles. 

Thats exactly what I would prefer to do if I go the cummins route, but I hadn't heard of people getting fuel mileage that good with the newer motors.

[jrebel]

Diesel.

Sell the Tacoma and sick liter, replace with new 3/4 ton and commuter car.

You'll be money ahead in the long run

Just buy the diesel and use it as your everyday car.  My 06 dodge gets 18-22 mpg, which is not much better than most cars.   The Diesel engine will last forever so why buy one and let it sit.....one of the worst things you can do to a diesel.  One vehicle, one payment, one insurance and drive it till it blows up at about 500,000 miles. 

Thats exactly what I would prefer to do if I go the cummins route, but I hadn't heard of people getting fuel mileage that good with the newer motors.

You don't have to buy new....  Another thought, If you can buy "Lifetime Lube Oil Filter" do it.  I paid $500 for the LOF package and it has paid dividends.  I got my $500 back in the first year and have owned my truck since 06...so I am thousands ahead. 

[Curly]

Ford F150 with ecoboost and the max tow option would probably work for your needs.  At least something to consider anyway.

[C-Money]

This kinda reminds me of the standard cartridge guys getting beat up by the magnum cartridge guys. Gas vs Diesel.

If the new Tundras catch your eye, talk to the dealer. See what they think about towing your boat. All I know is, our Tundra towed better than I ever thought it would. I tow with my F-350 V-10 now. If anyone questions the V-10s life longevity, ask a mechanic at a bus garage. They rack up crazy mileage on those motors and the V-10 has a VERY solid reputation. I've had diesels, they work great, but I was under mine a lot with tools. No where near the maintenance issues with my gas pick up.

If the OP wants to look at a gas pickup, there are options available to meet his needs.

[jrebel]

This kinda reminds me of the standard cartridge guys getting beat up by the magnum cartridge guys. Gas vs Diesel.

If the new Tundras catch your eye, talk to the dealer. See what they think about towing your boat. All I know is, our Tundra towed better than I ever thought it would. I tow with my F-350 V-10 now. If anyone questions the V-10s life longevity, as a mechanic at a bus garage. They rack up crazy mileage on those motors and the V-10 has a VERY solid reputation. I've had diesels, they work great, but I was under mine a lot with tools. No where near the maintenance issues with my gas pick up.

If the OP wants to look at a gas pickup, there are options available to meet his needs.

You must have owned a ford diesel...

I do agree the V10's are bullet proof.  They just get horrible fuel economy.