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Environmental groups challenge USFS ATV stance
by admin on Apr 17, 2014 • 2:18 pm No Comments

By Marcy Stamper

A recent policy interpretation by the forest supervisor allowing ATVs to use roads in the Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest “is unlawful and should be reversed immediately,” argue two environmental organizations in a letter to the supervisor, Mike Balboni.

In a letter sent last week to Balboni, the Methow Valley Citizens’ Council (MVCC) and Conservation Northwest contend that Balboni’s interpretation that a new state law makes all-terrain vehicles (ATVs) “highway-legal vehicles” for the purpose of forest roads is in error.

The two groups, which successfully sued Okanogan County last year over two ordinances allowing ATVs on hundreds of miles of county roads, advance some of the same arguments in this instance—that an analysis of conditions on individual roads and the opportunity for public input are necessary before ATVs can be permitted to use the roads.

“The direction Supervisor Balboni gave earlier remains,” said Robin DeMario, public affairs specialist for the Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest. “We are waiting for input and more discussion from the regional office.”

A copy of the letter was sent to the regional forester and the Pacific Northwest Regional Office has been following the situation.

“We are not at a point where a decision [about ATV use] has been made —we are still evaluating the impacts in the Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest,” said Shoni Pilip-Florea, director of public and legislative affairs for the Pacific Northwest Region.

The regional office provides policy and guidance to the 17 national forests in the Northwest, working collaboratively with line officers and taking into account local needs from a land-management perspective, said Pilip-Florea.

When Balboni’s interpretation was issued three weeks ago, agency spokespersons explained that, because the Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest has no regulation clearly prohibiting ATVs, there is no legal means to enforce a policy prohibiting the vehicles. Moreover, the Okanogan-Wenatchee does not have a motor vehicle use map showing every road and the types of vehicles that can use it. These maps govern road and vehicle use in each national forest, they explained.

Noting that the Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest is in the process of analyzing its road system as part of the nationwide Travel Management process, MVCC and Conservation Northwest contend that to reverse management direction “without any written directive or explanation, mixed use analysis, or public process … is an arbitrary and capricious exercise of authority.”

MVCC and Conservation Northwest argue that restrictions in state law prohibiting ATVs from using any road with a speed limit above 35 miles per hour differentiates ATVs from regular motor vehicles. The law includes provisions for licenses for ATVs that have had specified safety upgrades.

In their letter, the groups quote statements issued by the Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest shortly after the law went into effect last July that said the state law “does not allow general operation of wheeled ATVs on all public roads in the state … Therefore, ATVs are not highway-legal vehicles under agency policy.”

MVCC and Conservation Northwest ask Balboni to reaffirm that state law does not change policy barring ATVs from roads in the Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest. They say they do not oppose the operation of ATVs on appropriate Forest Service roads after the proper analysis and public input.

The regional office is still evaluating the overall impact of Washington’s ATV law statewide to see if further discussion about its interpretation is necessary, said Pilip-Florea. “We continue to have meetings and are hopeful we will have a solid interpretation and guidelines in the next couple of weeks,” she said.

“At this point in time, the vehicles that are street-legal can ride on those roads that are open to motor vehicles,” said DeMario. She added that if roads are snowy or muddy, the Forest Service encourages people not to drive on them to prevent resource damage.

Balboni will respond directly to MVCC and Conservation Northwest, said DeMario.

http://methowvalleynews.com/2014/04/17/environmental-groups-challenge-forest-service-atv-stance/

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This one should be interesting to follow along.
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Just another one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't things with land management agencies.

Close the roads, ATV groups threaten to sue. Open the roads, environmental groups threaten to sue.

And we wonder why things never get done....

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I wonder if these "Granola" groups are the same individuals I see riding bicycles in the forest during last deer season.  They did not seem very friendly when I waved to them while I was riding my "Street Legal" dual sport motorcycle past them during hunting.  Very interesting. 
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They say they do not oppose the operation of ATVs on appropriate Forest Service roads after the proper analysis and public input.
Uh huh....sure they don't...  :rolleyes:

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They say they do not oppose the operation of ATVs on appropriate Forest Service roads after the proper analysis and public input.



Sounds reasonable to me. I know that I would like to go on the record publicly in this matter.   :tup:

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I wonder if these "Granola" groups are the same individuals I see riding bicycles in the forest during last deer season.  They did not seem very friendly when I waved to them while I was riding my "Street Legal" dual sport motorcycle past them during hunting.  Very interesting.

LOL, I dust the hell out of rude bikers in the Methow Valley.  Friendly and courteous the first time, but if I get a snood, you can bet your a$$ that I'll intentionally pass by a couple times "on plane". ;)

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I wonder if these "Granola" groups are the same individuals I see riding bicycles in the forest during last deer season.  They did not seem very friendly when I waved to them while I was riding my "Street Legal" dual sport motorcycle past them during hunting.  Very interesting.

LOL, I dust the hell out of rude bikers in the Methow Valley.  Friendly and courteous the first time, but if I get a snood, you can bet your a$$ that I'll intentionally pass by a couple times "on plane". ;)

Being hot, sweaty and breathing hard is really the suck when you get lightly dusted with even a slow moving ATV


I'm polite and courteous right up to the point they throw something at me, or attempt to hit me with a ski pole then it's game on

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For those who aren't aware,  there are a whole lot of "Granola" crunchers living now in the Methow Valley :bash:

They slowly moved in and took over, plus with all the greenies in the USFS they've had a easy go of getting all they've wanted.

Gotta figure out how to get wolves and cats to eat spandex!! problem solved!! :chuckle:
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For those who aren't aware,  there are a whole lot of "Granola" crunchers living now in the Methow Valley :bash:

They slowly moved in and took over, plus with all the greenies in the USFS they've had a easy go of getting all they've wanted.

Gotta figure out how to get wolves and cats to eat spandex!! problem solved!! :chuckle:

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I take it back - there's no pleasing those types.



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I think this is what some people are looking for!

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Looking for "technicality's"  means outside pressure is being applied! :bash:
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I wonder if these "Granola" groups are the same individuals I see riding bicycles in the forest during last deer season.  They did not seem very friendly when I waved to them while I was riding my "Street Legal" dual sport motorcycle past them during hunting.  Very interesting.

LOL, I dust the hell out of rude bikers in the Methow Valley.  Friendly and courteous the first time, but if I get a snood, you can bet your a$$ that I'll intentionally pass by a couple times "on plane". ;)

I'm sure that goes a long way to establish a good image.
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I wonder if these "Granola" groups are the same individuals I see riding bicycles in the forest during last deer season.  They did not seem very friendly when I waved to them while I was riding my "Street Legal" dual sport motorcycle past them during hunting.  Very interesting.

LOL, I dust the hell out of rude bikers in the Methow Valley.  Friendly and courteous the first time, but if I get a snood, you can bet your a$$ that I'll intentionally pass by a couple times "on plane". ;)

I'm sure that goes a long way to establish a good image.


 :yeah:  Only going to worsen the problem.
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Seriously, no mean spirited dusting of bicyclers going on, no multiple passes, firearms are cased or "booted" everything legal.  My perception is these individuals would prefer not to share the forest with anybody but themselves.  As someone else here stated, there probably is nothing anyone can do to please these people.

 


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