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Thanks for the replies guys. Good info. I'm hijacking my own post, but I actually used to work for WY at their corporate office in Federal Way and I'm pissed about all these changes to access. Basically sold us out to big mutual fund shareholders. Still should be plenty of timberland to bike into though. I even heard a rumor that they are planning on moving the company headquarters up to downtown Seattle. What happened was they brought in one of there VP's from the south (Arkansas I think) to run all the timberlands up here as well. Down there it was a pay to play thing so she brought that idea up here to the Western timberlands. The whole company has changed and is run by people that have never even set foot in the woods around here. I got the hell out of there. If people want to voice concern, buy a few shares in the company and show up at the annual shareholders meetings and tell them how you feel. I think it's coming up this time of year and they usually open the floor up to questions....