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Offline billythekidrock

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Re: Is this a Blacktail Rub?
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2014, 05:07:31 PM »
High Bear peels. Pics of same tree.





Base of tree damaged by bear will have large pieces of bark.








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Re: Is this a Blacktail Rub?
« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2014, 05:08:00 PM »
Porcupine damage.



Base if Porcupine damaged tree will have small pieces of bark and often there will be small round turds and quills.








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Re: Is this a Blacktail Rub?
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2014, 05:08:19 PM »
Notice the difference between bear and porky damage. The edges are often softer with porky and they are always chewed,  not clawed like a bear.

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Re: Is this a Blacktail Rub?
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2014, 09:29:45 AM »
The tree farms get bear damage control permits. The amount of trees which were damaged was significant. Bear population in the area causing major issues. It's a popular spot to see trailers pulled by brown trucks going behind locked gates with black and white dogs barking in the back window. The bears in the area also come running to the sound of the garbage truck coming up the road. When the garbage man wears bear spray for one road on his route, you know something aint right.
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Re: Is this a Blacktail Rub?
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2014, 11:09:35 AM »
Porcupine ate the bark off that one tree between the branches.
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Re: Is this a Blacktail Rub?
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2014, 12:12:40 PM »
There would have to be so many porkies in the woods doing damage one would think you'd see them more often or dogs would get into them? I've never seen one dead or alive on the west side in my life. I know that doesn't mean they aren't here. Seen many in E. Wa. Never have seen one on the Wet side.
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Re: Is this a Blacktail Rub?
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2014, 12:32:30 PM »
There would have to be so many porkies in the woods doing damage one would think you'd see them more often or dogs would get into them? I've never seen one dead or alive on the west side in my life. I know that doesn't mean they aren't here. Seen many in E. Wa. Never have seen one on the Wet side.
definatly plenty on the westside, its so thick over here, i have killed a few, my poor hounds took the brunt of most of it, pulloing barbed quills from out poor little feamle walkers was just flat painful, mostly painful for the hound but very painful for me, i didnt like seeing my hounds in pain, probably another reason why i never ran bear with hounds :tup: i hear porky hides are worth somethin but not sure :dunno:
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Re: Is this a Blacktail Rub?
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2014, 05:16:49 AM »
There would have to be so many porkies in the woods doing damage one would think you'd see them more often or dogs would get into them? I've never seen one dead or alive on the west side in my life. I know that doesn't mean they aren't here. Seen many in E. Wa. Never have seen one on the Wet side.

There are tons of them over here. When I was younger we used to kill them all of the time. They are mostly nocturnal. Although I have seen quite a few during the day too.
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Re: Is this a Blacktail Rub?
« Reply #38 on: May 04, 2014, 01:06:28 PM »
I'd say it was a raccoon rub. Mating rub. When those old male raccoons get to rutting hard, they'll really tear up the trees.  ;)
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Could also be from a possum. I don't have any first hand experience w/them but I've heard stories that'll make your hair stand up.
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Re: Is this a Blacktail Rub?
« Reply #39 on: May 06, 2014, 07:24:46 AM »
when were these taken?  they aren't growing antlers back yet ...
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Re: Is this a Blacktail Rub?
« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2014, 01:48:53 PM »
went back today.  found dark brown and black 3 to 4" long hairs everywhere plus a ton of fresh elk sign...

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Re: Is this a Blacktail Rub?
« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2014, 04:36:46 AM »
Some of those are just decaying bark picture, the couple on the larger trees, while I have witnessed a Blacktail attacking a tree that large( He was a Monster Buck) they're most likely elk rubs. Not too common for a Blacktail to attack a tree that large. My guess is Elk, but if you can go back and investigate to see if any hair was left at the rub, most the time one that large there will be some hair stuck in the pitch or barkline.
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