Weyerhauser St. Helens Tree Farm

[ELKBURGER]

Are you going to need a permit if you draw a Margaret Tag?

I am not sure how much of the margaret belongs to wayerhauser....a bunch for sure. If you draw that tag and want to use their land then an access permit will need to be purchased. If you can get a hold of Agnew and get permission, perhaps you could hunt his land.

[ELKBURGER]

Are you going to need a permit if you draw a Margaret Tag?

I am not sure how much of the margaret belongs to wayerhauser....a bunch for sure. If you draw that tag and want to use their land then an access permit will need to be purchased. If you can get a hold of Agnew and get permission, perhaps you could hunt his land.

When looking at the available permits, the column just right of the hunt name is hunt notes. That letter code is explained on page 59. 'Q' refers to the need for an access permit in some private timberlands...aka wayerhauser. 'If you cant secure access in advance, do not apply for these hunts'. Thats WDFW's pre-warning and disclaimer when someone draws and complains about the 'lack of' or 'pay for' access.

[bobcat]

Are you going to need a permit if you draw a Margaret Tag?

Nobody knows the answer to that question yet.

Weyerhaeuser has said a permit will be "required to access the majority of the tree farm."

They also said "some areas will still have free access as in the past."




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[fireweed]

anyone know what happens if we dont buy a permit? any hunter knows we will be up the mountain before anyone monitors the gates. are they really going to check all the rigs that come down that place?

You get charged with trespassing.

Its funny that I have heard of people being charged with crminal trespass for being on Weyco property but I have never seen or heard of them going after all the local yokals that have free rein of Weyco land by hopping on their quads and following their trails out of their yards to all that land behind locked gates. Most of these places are so obvious its pathetic. Easy as pie to put a stop to it. But havent seen or heard them put any effort into it.

When they start issuing these permits will they start cracking down on those trespassers or will it be business as usual? My guess is business as usual. These places are all over the place. Cedar crk., salmon crk., Hurst rd., Tower rd., and on and on. Pretty frustrating. I hope like hell they let everybody know how they are going to handle that type of trespass in the future!

Pretty hard to keep people off HALF A COUNTY--especially the neighbors.  I think its called civil disobedience.

[Screaminreelz]

Are you going to need a permit if you draw a Margaret Tag?

I am not sure how much of the margaret belongs to wayerhauser....a bunch for sure. If you draw that tag and want to use their land then an access permit will need to be purchased. If you can get a hold of Agnew and get permission, perhaps you could hunt his land.

When looking at the available permits, the column just right of the hunt name is hunt notes. That letter code is explained on page 59. 'Q' refers to the need for an access permit in some private timberlands...aka wayerhauser. 'If you cant secure access in advance, do not apply for these hunts'. Thats WDFW's pre-warning and disclaimer when someone draws and complains about the 'lack of' or 'pay for' access.

How can you secure a permit before securing a tag? Results for tags come out after permits access is available. Am I wrong?

[bobcat]

Access permits for St Helens go up for sale on June 23rd.

Results for the special permit drawing should be available at least one week prior to that.


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[Nice Racks]

Not sure if this has been asked or addressed on all of these threads, but if a disabled hunter draws a permit and utilizes his companion card does the compainion have to purchase an access permit too? I think I know the answer, but just asking.

[Carnivore]

If someone were to buy a permit, does that guarantee you will not be locked out of the area during early archery for fire danger? Every year I have planned on hunting the Winston, they have shut the area down just before or just after opening.  Nothing like spending $150 on a permit you can't use.

[pianoman9701]

If someone were to buy a permit, does that guarantee you will not be locked out of the area during early archery for fire danger? Every year I have planned on hunting the Winston, they have shut the area down just before or just after opening.  Nothing like spending $150 on a permit you can't use.

Once they shut it down, it's closed, permit or not. I don't believe they're refunding anything either.

[bobcat]

I would think they will be much more likely to leave their lands open since they will now have paying customers.

One option would be to wait until just before the season opens to buy your pass. You would just have to be sure to do it with enough time for it to get to you by mail.

They are selling the permits up to September 30th and I don't think there's any chance of them selling out.


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[pianoman9701]

I would think they will be much more likely to leave their lands open since they will now have paying customers.

One option would be to wait until just before the season opens to buy your pass. You would just have to be sure to do it with enough time for it to get to you by mail.

They are selling the permits up to September 30th and I don't think there's any chance of them selling out.


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I'd be interested to find out how that worked in Vail and Pe Ell last year. I believe they got closed for fire danger in July and stayed closed until late September. Anyone?

[blackveltbowhunter]

I am not sure about vail. But I believe Pe Ell was open during archery. I didn't have a pass so I could be wrong as I dont have firsthand knowledge, But that was the word I got from folks who did.

[Bhunter253]

regarding the companion card no they would not have buy a permit, however they aren't allowed to hunt for themselves without a permit.there's paperwork to fill out for weyco but they allow the companion. You're required during fire season to carry a shovel and fore extinguisher in you're vehicle we didn't get locked out a single day last year.

[chester]

Pe ell never closed to pass holders, they did require you carry an axe, fire extinguisher and shovel in your vehicle tho .


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[pianoman9701]

Pe ell never closed to pass holders, they did require you carry an axe, fire extinguisher and shovel in your vehicle tho .


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Good info. Thanks!