Governors outdoor recreation group

[huntrights]

 
We, as hunters, must be a significant part of the discussion.  Be careful to not get involved in petty debates with those participants that appear to seek out opportunities to be a thorn in our sides just to instigate an online battle.  Let them look like the instigators of frivolous debates that they are.  Don't join in on their ignorance and obvious malicious intent on countering reasonable solutions that include hunting and hunters.  They are showing their true colors to all that read the comments and suggestions.  Hunters must come across as the level-headed, conservation-minded, reasonable, law-abiding citizens that we are.  State facts and offer suggestions for solutions.

[Dhoey07]

I posted a couple comments today under Danny H.  I'll try an be more active in the conversations on there

[Elkaholic daWg]

Hairball made a snide comment regarding the poorly educated rural folks and like magic it just vanished

[Southpole]

Hairball made a snide comment regarding the poorly educated rural folks and like magic it just vanished

GGGGRRRRRR!!! I would luuuuuv to meet that guy face to face

[JimmyHoffa]

Hairball made a snide comment regarding the poorly educated rural folks and like magic it just vanished

There was an article in the local news here where some marketing guy was giving a presentation on why the Wild Olympics should be passed and said that rural areas are 'brain drains' because all the young people that can succeed head off to the cities....but if they make more wilderness more people will come back.  Said that kids that grow up near preserved wild areas have better mental health and enhanced lives.
Then he said something about how people need nature to be creative and that they spend too much time in front of computers.  But the guy is advocating for fewer outdoor jobs with wilderness creation...so doesn't that mean more people at inside jobs in front of computers? 

[Southpole]

Someone told me a few years ago Al Gore had quoted saying "We need to get those hicks out of the country and into the city where they belong." I don't know if that was from his book or it just fell out of his mouth. Either way, it doesn't surprise me. That's what the extreme environmentalist's goal in life is, get everyone corralled into large towns and cities where they can control everyone however they see fit. That really bugs them to see people living independently owning their own resources (water, wood, land) without restrictions. They think you don't have any business having that freedom... I better shut up and get to work before I blow a gasket, this kind of crap really gets me hot !

[CAMPMEAT]

Someone told me a few years ago Al Gore had quoted saying "We need to get those hicks out of the country and into the city where they belong." I don't know if that was from his book or it just fell out of his mouth. Either way, it doesn't surprise me. That's what the extreme environmentalist's goal in life is, get everyone corralled into large towns and cities where they can control everyone however they see fit. That really bugs them to see people living independently owning their own resources (water, wood, land) without restrictions. They think you don't have any business having that freedom... I better shut up and get to work before I blow a gasket, this kind of crap really gets me hot !

It's hard keeping our cool with these people................they're just idiots.

[huntrights]

Current topics as of June 26, 2014:

Make sure our voices are heard as hunters. 


What steps can we take to ensure parks and public lands remain readily available despite tight budgets?

How do we ensure that a broader and more diverse group of Washington residents become active in the outdoors?

Should Washington establish an office focused specifically on marketing and promoting outdoor recreation?

On June 14, Washington State Parks hosted a local celebration of National Get Outdoors Day on Olympia’s Capitol Campus.

Should landowners be given immunity from liability when they open their land for recreation?

How can information about outdoor recreational opportunities be better disseminated throughout Washington?

How can Washington’s outdoor recreation programs better meet the needs of our diverse communities?

What strategies can towns in forested and rural areas use to attract outdoor adventurers and travelers?

What are your ideas to provide greater support for State Parks?

[bearpaw]

A summary of comments is being organized, the more hunters that comment, the more influence we'll have in the outcome. Please add your ideas, put stars on other comments you agree with, and vote on questions.

(please avoid engaging anyone in a negative manner)

[huntrights]

This is just a suggestion:

Mention hunters and hunting in a positive manner every opportunity you have that fits into your comments.  Our voices need to be clearly heard as hunters.

[CAMPMEAT]

.............and positive ORV use...

[huntrights]

Current topics as of 7-2-14:


What barriers reduce Washington’s youth and millennials engagement in the outdoors?

How can we promote Washington as an outdoor recreation destination for U.S. and overseas travelers?

What would encourage you to try something new outdoors?

Would you prefer a $10 annual fee on car, truck, motorcycle and RV license tab renewals or the annual $30 Discover Pass?  Many people don't like either option on this one and may not be voting; however, they are writing comments and suggestions.


Hunters need to continue entering comments. 

It is important to bring our level-headed, rational comments and suggestions to the table to counter some of the radically disconnected comments and suggestions that are showing up.

[bearpaw]

Current topics as of 7-2-14:


What barriers reduce Washington’s youth and millennials engagement in the outdoors?

How can we promote Washington as an outdoor recreation destination for U.S. and overseas travelers?

What would encourage you to try something new outdoors?

Would you prefer a $10 annual fee on car, truck, motorcycle and RV license tab renewals or the annual $30 Discover Pass?  Many people don't like either option on this one and may not be voting; however, they are writing comments and suggestions.


Hunters need to continue entering comments. 

It is important to bring our level-headed, rational comments and suggestions to the table to counter some of the radically disconnected comments and suggestions that are showing up.

Because I am on the Task Force I can't comment on the website, I'm only supposed to read everyone's comments, but I thought I would let you all know what I think here on the forum.

I have tried to get the task force to understand that hunters, fishers, and boaters have been paying the bulk of the bill for wildlife and State Parks. I have suggested a broader based revenue source where everyone pays a little rather than groups like hunters, fishers, and boaters paying more and more of the bills. I've tried to explain that burdening young and low income hunters, fishers, and any other recreationists with more cost (user fees) is pushing them away from participating.

The idea for a $10 increase in license tabs must have come from a different sub-committee than I am on, but I like the idea of a broad based tax where everyone pays rather than the $30 Discover Pass that hits hunters, fishers, and boaters harder than most other residents. That $10 fee on license tabs would spread the cost of state parks among most of the state's residents and likely result in better funding than the $30 Discover Pass is providing for state parks.

I'm really interested to hear what everyone thinks of this idea?

[KFhunter]

That'd be about 140 160 bucks for me     Discover pass isn't looking so bad now.

[CAMPMEAT]

Our license tab fees were voted in at $30 per vehicle. Then the government changed that illegally somehow. That state always does subversive acts without the publics votes/approval. I do not want anymore fees added to my license fees, because I don't use them.