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Vote: How to discourage garbage dumping, clean up garbage that has been dumped, and how to fund efforts?

Offer free cleanup to large landowners who keep properties open to public access
30 (11.2%)
Position dumpsters at key access points to remote areas and heavy use public sites
35 (13.1%)
Position transfer stations in rural areas that are more than 30 miles to a landfill
26 (9.7%)
Increase penalties for garbage dumping, 10x the penalty for littering
46 (17.2%)
Implement can and bottle deposits
23 (8.6%)
Use low risk prisoners who want to participate, to clean up garbage
49 (18.3%)
Have local Extension Service offices or volunteer organizations organize cleanup parties
17 (6.3%)
Funding: Include garbage pickup, transfer stations, and landfills with property taxes
23 (8.6%)
Funding: Create a new tax to deal with garbage
5 (1.9%)
Funding: I want garbage cleaned up but I do not want to pay for it
4 (1.5%)
I don't think garbage is a problem
4 (1.5%)
I don't care either way
2 (0.7%)
Offer free pickup of old appliances, car bodies, etc so they can be scrapped
4 (1.5%)

Total Members Voted: 76

Author Topic: Eliminating garbage from being dumped (poll added)  (Read 19849 times)

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Eliminating garbage from being dumped (poll added)
« on: May 04, 2014, 03:31:05 PM »
In Idaho there is no garbage (appliances, couches, TV's) dumped in the mountains. The reason for no garbage is that the landfill and garbage pickup is part of everyone's property taxes. In addition to garbage pickup I am allowed to take a couple tons of garbage to the county landfill each year at no extra charge. Because garbage is prepaid with property taxes there is no reason for people to dump in the mountains and the result is a much cleaner environment.

I'm thinking this would be a better approach in Washington. Maybe people would quit dumping junk and garbage in the mountains if they could simply take it to the landfill. Maybe this would prevent further loss of recreational access to private and public lands.

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« Last Edit: May 09, 2014, 07:56:33 AM by bearpaw »
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Re: Eliminating garbage from the mountains
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2014, 03:35:05 PM »
I think bottle and can deposit is a good idea too.

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Re: Eliminating garbage from the mountains
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2014, 03:43:51 PM »
I partly feel that a lot of the trash is tossed off cause folks are lazy...they just happen to have a half load of whatever in the truck, and why wait in line at the landfill, just toss if off into a gulley... Some trash piles are also the aftermath of a crime, a convenient way to get rid of evidence of your thefts....toss the junk you don't want. Plus, construction debris. I caught a guy dumping carpet and sent him packing home.

Dale, is construction debris also paid for in Idaho?
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Re: Eliminating garbage from the mountains
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2014, 03:48:52 PM »
Could work in the tri county area for sure......might even prompt some of the folks to go to the dump for the first time in their lives..............even the ones who dump on their own land. :dunno:

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Re: Eliminating garbage from the mountains
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2014, 03:49:13 PM »
I partly feel that a lot of the trash is tossed off cause folks are lazy...they just happen to have a half load of whatever in the truck, and why wait in line at the landfill, just toss if off into a gulley... Some trash piles are also the aftermath of a crime, a convenient way to get rid of evidence of your thefts....toss the junk you don't want. Plus, construction debris. I caught a guy dumping carpet and sent him packing home.

Dale, is construction debris also paid for in Idaho?

I assume it is because I see it at the landfill when I take stuff there. I have taken all kinds of garbage from the place I bought including construction debri, they took it all. The only time I get charged is when I go over my limit for the year, then additional charges do apply.
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Re: Eliminating garbage from the mountains
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2014, 03:51:20 PM »
Part of it is also the proximity to any kind of landfill.  For me it is about 80 miles round trip to the landfill.  The $10 every 6 months isn't bad, but the loading everything up then making the drive (including gas prices) is a pain--but still do it.  I can kind of see why the dumpers might dump--it's the lazy/easy way.  Some places would put a big steel bin in an area every few months to be picked up regularly for large items.

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Re: Eliminating garbage from the mountains
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2014, 04:46:30 PM »
i agree with iceman.  I think people are just lazy to take it to the transfer stations.  It really isnt that expensive to drop your garbage off at a transfer station for proper disposal.

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Re: Eliminating garbage from the mountains
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2014, 04:59:46 PM »
How does it work for renters, people who don't pay property taxes?
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Re: Eliminating garbage from the mountains
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2014, 05:26:04 PM »
How does it work for renters, people who don't pay property taxes?
  Property owner is paying the property taxes, so the renter would be allowed their set weight limit based on their address.

   I think this is a good idea - until the filthy politicians get their mits on another source of income, suck it dry and then say they need more $$ 'for the safety of _______" or "for the kids to get _______" or "in order to continue providing ______" - eventually it wouldn't get the funding required and we'd be in the same boat with higher property taxes. 

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Re: Eliminating garbage from the mountains
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2014, 05:35:22 PM »
How does it work for renters, people who don't pay property taxes?
  Property owner is paying the property taxes, so the renter would be allowed their set weight limit based on their address.

   I think this is a good idea - until the filthy politicians get their mits on another source of income, suck it dry and then say they need more $$ 'for the safety of _______" or "for the kids to get _______" or "in order to continue providing ______" - eventually it wouldn't get the funding required and we'd be in the same boat with higher property taxes. 
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Re: Eliminating garbage from the mountains
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2014, 05:37:58 PM »
How does it work for renters, people who don't pay property taxes?

They have garbage service like everyone else and can take items to the landfill. I assume that landowners (landlords) pass the cost on in the rent fee just they would pass on any other associated costs of ownership as part of the rental fee.
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Re: Eliminating garbage from the mountains
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2014, 05:42:07 PM »
How does it work for renters, people who don't pay property taxes?
  Property owner is paying the property taxes, so the renter would be allowed their set weight limit based on their address.

   I think this is a good idea - until the filthy politicians get their mits on another source of income, suck it dry and then say they need more $$ 'for the safety of _______" or "for the kids to get _______" or "in order to continue providing ______" - eventually it wouldn't get the funding required and we'd be in the same boat with higher property taxes. 
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I don't trust our public servants to run a efficient economical system. I really resist the idea that we should put that responsibility in their control. Maybe higher penalties for illegal dumping would work.

 :yeah: property taxes are already high enough, I'm sure if the county got this started I would pay more than my fair share.

Right now I take a load of garbage every 3-4 weeks in a Dakota for $10-11, pretty cheap compared to pick up service. They would probably want to charge an average to the tax payers which would most likely be higher than current garbage bill.  :twocents:
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Re: Eliminating garbage from the mountains
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2014, 06:06:01 PM »
 I'm a property and would gladly pay extra if it meant not seeing so much crap dumped in the woods! As it is now it's disgusting in places. I always end up picking up a trash bag full in a single day when I'm out in the woods. The days I don't are far and few between.

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Re: Eliminating garbage from the mountains
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2014, 06:08:45 PM »
Maybe we can have prisoners pick up the trash. We are already paying for their incarceration. Free garbage service will not stop idiots from littering. :twocents:
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Re: Eliminating garbage from the mountains
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2014, 06:12:27 PM »
The company in Republic, that had the contract with the city and county, to pickup it's garbage, had a contract with the city that stated in general terms, The city residents could not take ANY trash/garbage to the dump, or get a $250 ticket. He no longer has the contract with the city of Republic......
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