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What is the motivation for WDFW to tell people lies about seeing wolves? And please don't give me some wolfbait contrived conspiracy here...Seriously, what do they have to gain? I am not saying a few good ranchers are not seeing wolves, but all of my interaction with wdfw staff has been them saying that wolves can be absolutely anywhere and everywhere in WA and the population is growing. The wolf bios also preach about getting any wolf sightings or activity into them that you can, especially if it includes pictures of the animal or tracks etc. so they can focus their trapping efforts. This seems inconsistent with what you are posting
This same crap has been happening south of spokane for years! people seeing wolves and WDFW telling them its coyotes.
Quote from: idahohuntr on May 18, 2014, 11:19:01 PMWhat is the motivation for WDFW to tell people lies about seeing wolves? And please don't give me some wolfbait contrived conspiracy here...Seriously, what do they have to gain? I am not saying a few good ranchers are not seeing wolves, but all of my interaction with wdfw staff has been them saying that wolves can be absolutely anywhere and everywhere in WA and the population is growing. The wolf bios also preach about getting any wolf sightings or activity into them that you can, especially if it includes pictures of the animal or tracks etc. so they can focus their trapping efforts. This seems inconsistent with what you are posting You seem to act like you represent WDFW wolf division! I'm just presenting the information, you tell me?
Quote from: bearpaw on May 18, 2014, 11:28:42 PMQuote from: idahohuntr on May 18, 2014, 11:19:01 PMWhat is the motivation for WDFW to tell people lies about seeing wolves? And please don't give me some wolfbait contrived conspiracy here...Seriously, what do they have to gain? I am not saying a few good ranchers are not seeing wolves, but all of my interaction with wdfw staff has been them saying that wolves can be absolutely anywhere and everywhere in WA and the population is growing. The wolf bios also preach about getting any wolf sightings or activity into them that you can, especially if it includes pictures of the animal or tracks etc. so they can focus their trapping efforts. This seems inconsistent with what you are posting You seem to act like you represent WDFW wolf division! I'm just presenting the information, you tell me?Go find a thread on here about game wardens or point systems and then report back to me about how good I am at sticking up for WDFW Seriously though, every GMAC meeting I've been to we discuss wolves and every darn time there is nothing but discussion about how wolves are absolutely everywhere, they have a tough time collaring them, and please send information about wolf location/information to help our trappers. They freely admit that they only have absolute minimum counts on wolves, that confirmed packs are also minimum numbers etc. It just does not fit the description you've provided and I can't think of good motivation for anyone to be lying really...Ranchers are not going to waste time making up stories about wolves and wdfw would love to confirm more wolves/packs to meet de-listing criteria.
Quote from: bearpaw on May 18, 2014, 11:28:42 PMQuote from: idahohuntr on May 18, 2014, 11:19:01 PMWhat is the motivation for WDFW to tell people lies about seeing wolves? And please don't give me some wolfbait contrived conspiracy here...Seriously, what do they have to gain? I am not saying a few good ranchers are not seeing wolves, but all of my interaction with wdfw staff has been them saying that wolves can be absolutely anywhere and everywhere in WA and the population is growing. The wolf bios also preach about getting any wolf sightings or activity into them that you can, especially if it includes pictures of the animal or tracks etc. so they can focus their trapping efforts. This seems inconsistent with what you are posting You seem to act like you represent WDFW wolf division! I'm just presenting the information, you tell me?Gotta be an internal policy, part of the tolerance portion of the wolf plan *or* just the bigwigs in Olympia saying that all non-verified sightings are coyotes/domestics/hybrids until proven otherwise. Were these the local wardens Bearpaw? disappointed if the local guys are doing this.."Olympia say's is a coyote, so I have to tell you you'r seeing Coyotes..but....."
I'm at the give up point Dale, probably noticed I haven't been in the wolf section too much lately. Painfully obvious NE/WA is a forgone conclusion and the wolf huggers here admit that freely. WDFW isn't going to lift a finger to do anything and quite the opposite they suppress wolf sightings and fail to document. The only thing that'll bring about change is more pain, lot's more pain.