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Offline Special T

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Re: Shooting from Within your Vehicle Now Legal
« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2014, 03:32:36 PM »
Only with a handgun though, right?  Long guns still can't be loaded inside a vehicle.
There's an exception for long guns

(the section refers to loaded firearms in vehicles)
(4) This section does not apply if the person:
(c) Discharges the rifle or shotgun from upon a nonmoving motor vehicle or a nonmoving off-road vehicle, as long as the engine is turned off and the motor vehicle or off-road vehicle is not parked on or beside the maintained portion of a public road, except as authorized by the commission by rule.

EFFECTIVE JUNE 2014 THE FOLLOWING TAKES EFFECT
(c) Discharges the rifle or shotgun from upon a nonmoving motor vehicle, as long as the engine is turned off and the motor vehicle is not parked on or beside the maintained portion of a public road, except as authorized by the commission by rule. This subsection (4)(c) does not apply to off-road vehicles, which are unlawful to use for hunting under RCW 46.09.480, unless the person has a department permit issued under RCW 77.32.237.

So If i'm driving across my feild on my atv see X animal, stop turn off the ATV, Load the weapon and shoot from the ATV am I legal?
Switch and insert Pickup truck...

It sounds like it is illegal for an ATV or UTV. It sounds legal if your not in the cab of the Pickup... Am I reading this correctly?
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Re: Shooting from Within your Vehicle Now Legal
« Reply #46 on: May 12, 2014, 03:42:30 PM »
I think I'm going to take my 6.5 grendel AR Pistol with 26 round mag, loaded in my car, with my CPL and traveling "to or from an outdoor recreational activity" an d pull over on state land off of the maintained portion of the highway and shoot out my window 15 times at a large bull elk, in the modern rifle season of course. 

Wish me luck.

Also, I'm going to get a bigger truck so I can shoot my bow out the window at deer.

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Re: Shooting from Within your Vehicle Now Legal
« Reply #47 on: May 12, 2014, 03:50:42 PM »
Only with a handgun though, right?  Long guns still can't be loaded inside a vehicle.
There's an exception for long guns

(the section refers to loaded firearms in vehicles)
(4) This section does not apply if the person:
(c) Discharges the rifle or shotgun from upon a nonmoving motor vehicle or a nonmoving off-road vehicle, as long as the engine is turned off and the motor vehicle or off-road vehicle is not parked on or beside the maintained portion of a public road, except as authorized by the commission by rule.

EFFECTIVE JUNE 2014 THE FOLLOWING TAKES EFFECT
(c) Discharges the rifle or shotgun from upon a nonmoving motor vehicle, as long as the engine is turned off and the motor vehicle is not parked on or beside the maintained portion of a public road, except as authorized by the commission by rule. This subsection (4)(c) does not apply to off-road vehicles, which are unlawful to use for hunting under RCW 46.09.480, unless the person has a department permit issued under RCW 77.32.237.

So If i'm driving across my feild on my atv see X animal, stop turn off the ATV, Load the weapon and shoot from the ATV am I legal?
Switch and insert Pickup truck...

It sounds like it is illegal for an ATV or UTV. It sounds legal if your not in the cab of the Pickup... Am I reading this correctly?
Assuming no other conflicts with existing law, it is legal today to shoot from an ORV under the conditions you described. Effective in June, it will no longer be legal to do so from an ORV.

The key word in the RCW that changed in 2012 is "upon". Prior to 2012, it was not legal to have a loaded long gun either in or upon a motor vehicle. If you rested a loaded rifle against your parked truck, you were in violation of the RCW. That changed in 2012 to allow having a loaded long gun "upon" a motor vehicle if the engine is off, the vehicle is not moving, and it is off the maintained portion of a public road.
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Re: Shooting from Within your Vehicle Now Legal
« Reply #48 on: May 12, 2014, 09:32:53 PM »
Bob That is kinda how i was reading it, but the post kind of confused me.
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Re: Shooting from Within your Vehicle Now Legal
« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2014, 02:59:42 AM »
Big Tex. I don't doubt that you've posted info about laws concerning shooting from a road on this forum. I'll bet that most WA hunters do not come to this forum to get their hunting regulation info though.
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Re: Shooting from Within your Vehicle Now Legal
« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2014, 03:32:25 AM »
I think I'm going to take my 6.5 grendel AR Pistol with 26 round mag, loaded in my car, with my CPL and traveling "to or from an outdoor recreational activity" an d pull over on state land off of the maintained portion of the highway and shoot out my window 15 times at a large bull elk, in the modern rifle season of course. 

Wish me luck.

Also, I'm going to get a bigger truck so I can shoot my bow out the window at deer.

Get a van, its easier to shoot a bow out of that big sliding door. :chuckle:

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Re: Shooting from Within your Vehicle Now Legal
« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2014, 05:46:13 AM »
They didn't add the word Negligently to the archery section. still says illegal.
I'm not sure.

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Re: Shooting from Within your Vehicle Now Legal
« Reply #52 on: May 15, 2014, 06:31:09 AM »
I think I'm going to take my 6.5 grendel AR Pistol with 26 round mag, loaded in my car, with my CPL and traveling "to or from an outdoor recreational activity" an d pull over on state land off of the maintained portion of the highway and shoot out my window 15 times at a large bull elk, in the modern rifle season of course. 

Wish me luck.

Also, I'm going to get a bigger truck so I can shoot my bow out the window at deer.

Get a van, its easier to shoot a bow out of that big sliding door. :chuckle:

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Re: Shooting from Within your Vehicle Now Legal
« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2014, 10:00:26 PM »
They added the word 'negligently' to the waterfowl regs last year. Funny, how many guys shoot ducks and geese from the road?
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Re: Shooting from Within your Vehicle Now Legal
« Reply #54 on: May 16, 2014, 10:10:19 PM »
They added the word 'negligently' to the waterfowl regs last year. Funn, how many guys shoot ducks and geese from the road?

I see quite a few duck blinds right next to Interstate 5!    :chuckle:

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Re: Shooting from Within your Vehicle Now Legal
« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2014, 10:10:43 PM »
Big Tex. I don't doubt that you've posted info about laws concerning shooting from a road on this forum. I'll bet that most WA hunters do not come to this forum to get their hunting regulation info though.
Completely understand that. However, people need to realize that the hunting and fishing pamphlets only contain state (WDFW) laws. If you want all you city, county, and federal laws that could apply to hunting and fishing in the pamphlets, then expect the size of your pamphlets to grow significantly.

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Re: Shooting from Within your Vehicle Now Legal
« Reply #56 on: May 16, 2014, 11:34:59 PM »
Big Tex. I don't doubt that you've posted info about laws concerning shooting from a road on this forum. I'll bet that most WA hunters do not come to this forum to get their hunting regulation info though.
Completely understand that. However, people need to realize that the hunting and fishing pamphlets only contain state (WDFW) laws. If you want all you city, county, and federal laws that could apply to hunting and fishing in the pamphlets, then expect the size of your pamphlets to grow significantly.

I think that if hunters will be expected to follow all of these laws and if LEO will be expected to enforce them, hunters need to be made aware of them.
I don't want our reg pamphlet any bigger or complicated than it is but ignorance is just that if we're kept in the dark about certain laws.
Maybe some of these laws could be simplified or combined or deleted.
How about the one you quoted earlier in this thread - illegal to shoot from a body of water with a national forest system road adjacent to it???
So you cannot duck/goose hunt a body of water if it has a national forest system road adjacent to it? This sounds like one that could be deleted Big Tex.
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Re: Shooting from Within your Vehicle Now Legal
« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2014, 09:00:21 PM »
Consider a group of folks that come here to hunt from out of state for example. They read the hunting regs, purchase licenses and head out.
In all my years of hunting here in WA, I've never heard about the law Big Tex quoted concerning Federal lands, roads and shooting. I see a million road hunters every year and have never seen nor heard of anyone ever getting cited for shooting from a road.who would come out of state to hunt Washington?

 


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