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Offline runamuk

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Re: Bear meat ethics
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2014, 05:12:58 AM »
so coyotes rockchucks what about beaver, muskrat, fox, crows?  I am just always curious where this line is drawn....the you must consume it for it show respect line?  my beliefs have changed over time as I reconsider conservation and nature as a whole and not a sum of its parts.  All animals deserve respect...except sharks I dont like them at all.....they can all be crab bait. 

If we are gonna discuss ethics whose ethics get to prevail? yours, mine, the vegan member of peta?  Again I would say follow the laws of each state as written, and follow your own instincts can you look in the mirror and feel good if so then its ethical for you  :dunno:

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Re: Bear meat ethics
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2014, 08:33:50 AM »
so coyotes rockchucks what about beaver, muskrat, fox, crows?  I am just always curious where this line is drawn....the you must consume it for it show respect line?  my beliefs have changed over time as I reconsider conservation and nature as a whole and not a sum of its parts.  All animals deserve respect...except sharks I dont like them at all.....they can all be crab bait. 

If we are gonna discuss ethics whose ethics get to prevail? yours, mine, the vegan member of peta?  Again I would say follow the laws of each state as written, and follow your own instincts can you look in the mirror and feel good if so then its ethical for you  :dunno:

Beaver, muskrat and fox are all furbearers.  I kill them and sell their fur, leather and castor.  Then I use their meat to trap with.  I don't think an animal has to be eaten to be ethically utilized (I know you didn't say that)
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Bear meat ethics
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2014, 10:45:44 AM »
I need to rephrase (was late when I posted this :dunno:)... I should have said my "personal opinion is... " and I do also "personally" think that what you are doing, Jonathan_S is fine in my book. I didn't mean to sound preachy or "I'm right and everyone else is wrong". I'm just putting my opinion out there and my opinions on this sort of thing has changed a lot as well as I've gotten older. I used to shoot ground squirrels all the time and just leave them (would be interesting to know if anyone actually does do something with them!) But I just don't care to do it anymore. It's not right for me.

If we are gonna discuss ethics whose ethics get to prevail? yours, mine, the vegan member of peta?  Again I would say follow the laws of each state as written, and follow your own instincts can you look in the mirror and feel good if so then its ethical for you

I agree with this in that people just need to follow the laws and within those laws individually do what's right for them. I definitely am not out for my ethics to prevail. I would rather that people have the choice.

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Re: Bear meat ethics
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2014, 10:59:15 AM »
It's not right to kill anything unless you plan on consuming it or utilizing it the best you can. For example the coyotes I used to shoot i would only shoot them in their fur prime and save their carcasses for crab bait.
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Re: Bear meat ethics
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2014, 12:35:23 PM »
If we are gonna discuss ethics whose ethics get to prevail? yours, mine, the vegan member of peta? 

Well mine of course, especially when we are discussing those fish eatin, hibernatin above 10,000 feet bears that have rubbed their hair off and meat stinky.

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Re: Bear meat ethics
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2014, 05:07:16 PM »
Hmm. Interesting.

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Re: Bear meat ethics
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2014, 06:25:22 PM »
When I guide goat hunts none of the clients are interested n taking the meat home. The goats are killed during the rut and they stink. I have eaten some of it and it isn't very good. We salvage 100% of the meat and it is shipped to the food bank in Anchorage. The area where we hunt is so rugged and tough the only large mammals that live in There are bears and goats. (We have seen a wolverine) I dont know that I can say that the meat has gone to better use being flown up to anchorage than left I. The field for the critters. I know this isn't  the popular way of thinking and most people say the animal needs to be eaten out of respect, but like radsav said, now I see it as more of a whole hot the sum of its parts. You can say that the clients should take the meat or not kill the animal but that's just not the case and like another poster said when he sells pelts from coyotes or castor from beavers, helping those people kill those goats was how I made my living at that time. Killing the goats during the rut they are easier for the people to get and the hair is prime then.

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Re: Bear meat ethics
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2014, 08:43:23 PM »
It's all Persenal ethics, I can careless what someone does with their meat and I won't preach or defend what I do with mine.  To each their own.

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Re: Bear meat ethics
« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2014, 06:59:14 AM »
the way our game taste is all about what they eat. and wild game fat from any animal deer,elk,bear or what ever should be trim off and don't leave the bones in.

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Re: Bear meat ethics
« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2014, 07:06:47 AM »
It's all Persenal ethics, I can careless what someone does with their meat and I won't preach or defend what I do with mine.  To each their own.

As long as we're talking about wild game meat. :chuckle:


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Re: Bear meat ethics
« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2014, 08:45:05 AM »
It's all Persenal ethics, I can careless what someone does with their meat and I won't preach or defend what I do with mine.  To each their own.

As long as we're talking about wild game meat. :chuckle:


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Re: Bear meat ethics
« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2014, 08:54:59 AM »
You can always use dog food. I don't know about you guys but I spend $100/mo on dog food alone. If I took a OIL tag like goat, i would still freeze the meat for the dogs! 

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Re: Bear meat ethics
« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2014, 09:29:00 AM »
Not to jack this thread but how do you make dog food out of your game meat?


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Re: Bear meat ethics
« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2014, 09:58:17 AM »
Not to jack this thread but how do you make dog food out of your game meat?

feed raw.. dogs tend to be much healthier on a raw diet anyways :twocents:
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Re: Bear meat ethics
« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2014, 10:14:29 AM »
But my health goes way down cleaning up reeking diarrhea when my dog eata raw meat. She got a but of raw elk when I was butchering last time then climbed in my truck to puke!

 


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