I've not seen any green dot for over two years. Also look for red dot, clay dot, 700X they shoot about the same. I've been finding Winchester Super Handicap at Sportsman's sometimes. I've got 1K loaded for the few months, now I'm out of shot and I just don't like spending $50 for 25 pounds. Finished off my last bag of #8's that I purchased 3 years ago when I got a tone back then it was $12.50 a bag.