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Re: Dog chasing/killing Salmon in Minter creek
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2014, 06:52:49 AM »
Allowing a dog to chase deer is illegal under state law. Allowing a dog to chase salmon is not illegal.

You may find yourself in legal trouble by shooting a dog which is doing something that is allowable under state law.

Plus....These are hatchery fish! Man made! The hatchery will make there quota. We had our chance to catch them before they went up the creek.
Now if the dog was doing this on the Little Natches killing endangered Springers, that would be a different story.

I will agree the dog should be better kept track of by its owner, but it sure isnt going to hurt the Wild Salmon population one bit.

As has already been mentioned, there's more risk to the dog than the fish in this situation...

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Re: Dog chasing/killing Salmon in Minter creek
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2014, 07:04:52 AM »
Allowing a dog to chase deer is illegal under state law. Allowing a dog to chase salmon is not illegal.

You may find yourself in legal trouble by shooting a dog which is doing something that is allowable under state law.

Plus....These are hatchery fish! Man made! The hatchery will make there quota. We had our chance to catch them before they went up the creek.
Now if the dog was doing this on the Little Natches killing endangered Springers, that would be a different story.

I will agree the dog should be better kept track of by its owner, but it sure isnt going to hurt the Wild Salmon population one bit.

As has already been mentioned, there's more risk to the dog than the fish in this situation...

Sure is allot of talk comparing Salmon and Deer chasing...

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Re: Dog chasing/killing Salmon in Minter creek
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2014, 07:12:38 AM »
Allowing a dog to chase deer is illegal under state law. Allowing a dog to chase salmon is not illegal.

You may find yourself in legal trouble by shooting a dog which is doing something that is allowable under state law.

Plus....These are hatchery fish! Man made! The hatchery will make there quota. We had our chance to catch them before they went up the creek.
Now if the dog was doing this on the Little Natches killing endangered Springers, that would be a different story.

I will agree the dog should be better kept track of by its owner, but it sure isnt going to hurt the Wild Salmon population one bit.

As has already been mentioned, there's more risk to the dog than the fish in this situation...

Sure is allot of talk comparing Salmon and Deer chasing...

There's a lot of blustering in this and other threads, especially three weeks before the elk opener for archery. I'm pretty sure that most of the people advocating the on-the-spot execution of Rin Tin Tin for choosing a sea kitten diet would probably not pull the trigger in an actual observance of it happening. September 2nd, baby! Get some!
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Re: Dog chasing/killing Salmon in Minter creek
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2014, 07:44:29 AM »
Allowing a dog to chase deer is illegal under state law. Allowing a dog to chase salmon is not illegal.

You may find yourself in legal trouble by shooting a dog which is doing something that is allowable under state law.

Plus....These are hatchery fish! Man made! The hatchery will make there quota. We had our chance to catch them before they went up the creek.

Now if the dog was doing this on the Little Natches killing endangered Springers, that would be a different story.

I will agree the dog should be better kept track of by its owner, but it sure isnt going to hurt the Wild Salmon population one bit.

As has already been mentioned, there's more risk to the dog than the fish in this situation...


Sure is allot of talk comparing Salmon and Deer chasing...

either situation my point from beginning was and remains  WE ARE NOT LEO! we are tasked to simply report and let the state do their jobs. we are not ever directed to take any form of illegal actions in any documents or from wildlife officials. Only time there is wiggle is to protect your life. Many folks feel they have the right to do more in these low personal risk situations and that is simply not reality. This bad decision carries MAJOR reprisal on the back end from owners and state.

Remember Felony activity carries loss of your gun rights. Weapon of choice is a red herring for my discussion, bb gun, poison, shotgun, bow etc.. all will result in arrest.

Honestly, if an owner (out of control, a dumb**, didn't care about pets running amok eating fish, deer, whatever), will not play into YOUR actions or weigh into your ruling, merely result in potential separate citations from WDFW or local County pet police toward owner.

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Re: Dog chasing/killing Salmon in Minter creek
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2014, 08:03:52 AM »
Looking at the pic it looks like a baby WOLF... This scientific research proves that WOLFS KILL FOR FUN... And do not eat what they kill...
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Re: Dog chasing/killing Salmon in Minter creek
« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2014, 09:04:50 AM »
Here's another "what if", what if it was a bear chasing and killing the salmon? :dunno:

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Re: Dog chasing/killing Salmon in Minter creek
« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2014, 09:20:14 AM »
Im blown away that so many people are A worried about the fish, and B that shooting a dog with a BB gun some how constitutes a fellony or some other kind of tough punishment. Aren't BB guns FOR shooting the neighbors dog that keeps pooping in your yard?  :dunno:
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Re: Dog chasing/killing Salmon in Minter creek
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2014, 09:28:56 AM »
Here's another "what if", what if it was a bear chasing and killing the salmon? :dunno:

Since when is the elusive Border Collie a native Washington State animal?

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Re: Dog chasing/killing Salmon in Minter creek
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2014, 09:38:16 AM »
Here's another "what if", what if it was a bear chasing and killing the salmon? :dunno:

Big difference.  So you're OK with feral or your neighbor's cat killing quail and pheasants since a bobcat does it?   :bash:

Wild animals doing their thing are a completely different story from pets or abandoned non-wild animals wreaking havok on nature.

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Re: Dog chasing/killing Salmon in Minter creek
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2014, 09:51:28 AM »
THere are a whole lot of things in this thread that I find disturbing. 

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Re: Dog chasing/killing Salmon in Minter creek
« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2014, 10:10:43 AM »
For me I hope the problem gets solved without the dog getting shot.

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Re: Dog chasing/killing Salmon in Minter creek
« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2014, 10:22:14 AM »
Allowing a dog to chase deer is illegal under state law. Allowing a dog to chase salmon is not illegal.

You may find yourself in legal trouble by shooting a dog which is doing something that is allowable under state law.

Plus....These are hatchery fish! Man made! The hatchery will make there quota. We had our chance to catch them before they went up the creek.

Now if the dog was doing this on the Little Natches killing endangered Springers, that would be a different story.

I will agree the dog should be better kept track of by its owner, but it sure isnt going to hurt the Wild Salmon population one bit.

As has already been mentioned, there's more risk to the dog than the fish in this situation...


Sure is allot of talk comparing Salmon and Deer chasing...

either situation my point from beginning was and remains  WE ARE NOT LEO! we are tasked to simply report and let the state do their jobs. we are not ever directed to take any form of illegal actions in any documents or from wildlife officials. Only time there is wiggle is to protect your life. Many folks feel they have the right to do more in these low personal risk situations and that is simply not reality. This bad decision carries MAJOR reprisal on the back end from owners and state.

Remember Felony activity carries loss of your gun rights. Weapon of choice is a red herring for my discussion, bb gun, poison, shotgun, bow etc.. all will result in arrest.

Honestly, if an owner (out of control, a dumb**, didn't care about pets running amok eating fish, deer, whatever), will not play into YOUR actions or weigh into your ruling, merely result in potential separate citations from WDFW or local County pet police toward owner.

Shooting a bb gun is a felony?  They better make more prisons.

When I called LEO about a dog in my yard, they said I had every right to shoot it.  For cats, they won't even respond to the call.  If it is on your property, deal with it however you like.  If not, grab it and take it to the pound where the owner will hopefully learn a lesson.

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It cracks me up when people say "leave me alone" and then let their animals roam around and cause damage wherever.  Part of "leave me alone" should also include leaving others alone.

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Re: Dog chasing/killing Salmon in Minter creek
« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2014, 11:27:07 AM »
Here's another "what if", what if it was a bear chasing and killing the salmon? :dunno:

Big difference.  So you're OK with feral or your neighbor's cat killing quail and pheasants since a bobcat does it?   :bash:

Wild animals doing their thing are a completely different story from pets or abandoned non-wild animals wreaking havok on nature.

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Re: Dog chasing/killing Salmon in Minter creek
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2014, 01:30:12 PM »
Just go inform the owner about his dog, if nothing happens, call the animal control.

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Re: Dog chasing/killing Salmon in Minter creek
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2014, 02:36:38 PM »
THere are a whole lot of things in this thread that I find disturbing.

Here is what I learned-

Fish not as important as dog
Deer= more important than dog
Human Life not as important as "MY" dog if you killed it

Here we go again.

 


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