Free: Contests & Raffles.
Although I totally disagree with the outcome of this incident if it truly was handled by LE the way it is described in the posts, I will play the devil's advocate with my next statement:There is a fine line that is being walked in that area that is based entirely on fear. See, several years ago a mother-daughter duo out on a day hike were murdered in a crime that is still unsolved. For a couple years following the incident the visitor numbers drastically declined based on the fear created by a monster on the loose. Nearly all the stores in Granite Falls still display Reward posters that explain the crime, the victims, and inform hikers that the killer is still at large. This terrible incident altered the mental landscape of hikers in that area and created a fear of the possibility that it could happen again because the killer is still at large.Like I said, I disagree with any law abiding citizens right to carry being infringed upon but there is also a level of sensitivity in that area that hikers and LE deal with that makes the issue less than black and white. I don't like it but I understand it. I would like to hear an official account of the incident rather than base my reaction on posts from people who encountered only a few seconds of an incident that it seems no one really witnessed the conclusion of.
Quote from: Chase 1 on August 11, 2014, 08:20:32 AMAlthough I totally disagree with the outcome of this incident if it truly was handled by LE the way it is described in the posts, I will play the devil's advocate with my next statement:There is a fine line that is being walked in that area that is based entirely on fear. See, several years ago a mother-daughter duo out on a day hike were murdered in a crime that is still unsolved. For a couple years following the incident the visitor numbers drastically declined based on the fear created by a monster on the loose. Nearly all the stores in Granite Falls still display Reward posters that explain the crime, the victims, and inform hikers that the killer is still at large. This terrible incident altered the mental landscape of hikers in that area and created a fear of the possibility that it could happen again because the killer is still at large.Like I said, I disagree with any law abiding citizens right to carry being infringed upon but there is also a level of sensitivity in that area that hikers and LE deal with that makes the issue less than black and white. I don't like it but I understand it. I would like to hear an official account of the incident rather than base my reaction on posts from people who encountered only a few seconds of an incident that it seems no one really witnessed the conclusion of. I disagree. That is all the more reason to carry. If there is a murderer on the loose I'm dang sure going to protect my self. Also sensitivity doesn't give an exception from the constitution.
I disagree with any law abiding citizens right to carry being infringed upon, especially in the outdoors.
All I know is I have ALWAYS specifically avoided places that are overrun with hikers when I go hunting. They are scared of guns and scaring people takes away from the hunting experience for me. So I just avoid that type of situation. It's really not hard to do.
Quote from: pianoman9701 on August 11, 2014, 08:40:38 AMI disagree with any law abiding citizens right to carry being infringed upon, especially in the outdoors.Why not leave it at that? Before you know it, just talking about our Constitutional rights will "make people feel uncomfortable". Like I said, the woods isn't Starbucks or Target. It's the freakin' woods. Even state law recognizes the rights of citizens to protect themselves far away from the warm embrace of police by allowing people without a permit to carry concealed. The fact that we are an open carry state AND this guy was out in the woods makes this event unfathomable to anyone who's afraid that each infringement upon our 2A rights leads finally to its removal from our beloved Constitution.This is a big step in the wrong direction. If you value your rights under the 2nd Amendment, you should be writing someone about this. I am.
Although I totally disagree with the outcome of this incident if it truly was handled by LE the way it is described in the posts, I will play the devil's advocate with my next statement:There is a fine line that is being walked in that area that is based entirely on fear. See, several years ago a mother-daughter duo out on a day hike were murdered in a crime that is still unsolved. For a couple years following the incident the visitor numbers drastically declined based on the fear created by a monster on the loose. Nearly all the stores in Granite Falls still display Reward posters that explain the crime, the victims, and inform hikers that the killer is still at large. This terrible incident altered the mental landscape of hikers in that area and created a fear of the possibility that it could happen again because the killer is still at large.I understand what you are saying but I could use that argument on any other place around that has had a killing of one sort or another that the person has not been caught for. If people are truly in fear then why are they still hiking there? Better yet, why dont they take conceal carry classes to better equip themselves if such a situation would arise? Like I said, I disagree with any law abiding citizens right to carry being infringed upon but there is also a level of sensitivity in that area that hikers and LE deal with that makes the issue less than black and white. I don't like it but I understand it. I would like to hear an official account of the incident rather than base my reaction on posts from people who encountered only a few seconds of an incident that it seems no one really witnessed the conclusion of.
