Huge West Side Rosie

[grundy53]

Yeah, there's three categories for WA elk:  Rocky Mountain, Cascade Roosevelt and Roosevelt.

if it was to be put into boone and crockett it would be classified as rocky mountain end of discussion... 
That's like classifying the bucks in north bend as black tail mule crosses, bootlegs, hybrids..... whatever goes in the book is what matters...

Maybe its the end of the discussion for YOU. There are a lot of hunters who don't give a rip about record books. Boone and Crockett only classify it that way to make it easier on them. Not because the elk east of I-5 are actually Rocky's. There are a lot of Roosevelts east of I-5.

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END OF DISCUSSION THAT IS NOT A ROOSEVELT BULL PERIOD!!! THANK YOU...

You could say that he has some Roosevelt in him but his is mainly rocky thats all u can say

Hahaha. Ok. Are you the one that taught all those elk to read so that they would know to not cross I-5? If so you didn't do a good job because there are quite a few hit on I-5. You're saying if a Roosevelt walks across I-5 he magically becomes a Rocky mountain elk? Thats AMAZING! I wonder what they did before they made that magical highway...

You're trying to say all those bulls in the toutle, Margaret, and Winston ate Rockys? Amazing....

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[bearpaw]

Never heard of the cascade Rosie, is there a scientific taxonomy description of this assumed subspecies?

No, like I said the only place you'll find this classification for a "Cascade Roosevelt" is in the state record book put out by Northwest Big Game. It's not an officially recognized sub-species.

http://www.nwbiggame.com

   Bobcat has it right!     According to P&Y and B&C to qualify as a Roosy in the other books it must come from west of I-5.

[Billdos Uncle]

Never heard of the cascade Rosie, is there a scientific taxonomy description of this assumed subspecies?

No, like I said the only place you'll find this classification for a "Cascade Roosevelt" is in the state record book put out by Northwest Big Game. It's not an officially recognized sub-species.

http://www.nwbiggame.com

   Bobcat has it right!     According to P&Y and B&C to qualify as a Roosy in the other books it must come from west of I-5.

thank you very much exactly what I said.... and im not saying that there couldn't be rosies east of 1-5 im saying that if there is it is technically classified as a rocky mountain wether u like it or not...

[Billdos Uncle]

And this bull in the picture is rocky mountain 

[RadSav]

You're trying to say all those bulls in the toutle, Margaret, and Winston ate Rockys?

I knew Cascade Rosies were mean and tough.  But I had no idea they were meat eaters!  Wonder if that's what happened to all the deer in the Toutle, Winston and Margaret too?   Let's transplant some into the NE as I imagine a 700# meat eating ungulate must be a wolfs worst nightmare!

[grundy53]

You're trying to say all those bulls in the toutle, Margaret, and Winston ate Rockys?

I knew Cascade Rosies were mean and tough.  But I had no idea they were meat eaters!  Wonder if that's what happened to all the deer in the Toutle, Winston and Margaret too?   Let's transplant some into the NE as I imagine a 700# meat eating ungulate must be a wolfs worst nightmare!

Hahaha dang auto correct.

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[grundy53]

Never heard of the cascade Rosie, is there a scientific taxonomy description of this assumed subspecies?

No, like I said the only place you'll find this classification for a "Cascade Roosevelt" is in the state record book put out by Northwest Big Game. It's not an officially recognized sub-species.

http://www.nwbiggame.com

   Bobcat has it right!     According to P&Y and B&C to qualify as a Roosy in the other books it must come from west of I-5.

thank you very much exactly what I said.... and im not saying that there couldn't be rosies east of 1-5 im saying that if there is it is technically classified as a rocky mountain wether u like it or not...

What I am saying is an arbitrary line made up by some organization that isn't from Washington is not scientific. Like I said earlier they put that line there to limit the possibility of cross breeds making their book. Does that automatically make all elk east of I-5 Rockys? No.

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[bullfisher]

Never heard of the cascade Rosie, is there a scientific taxonomy description of this assumed subspecies?

No, like I said the only place you'll find this classification for a "Cascade Roosevelt" is in the state record book put out by Northwest Big Game. It's not an officially recognized sub-species.

http://www.nwbiggame.com

   Bobcat has it right!     According to P&Y and B&C to qualify as a Roosy in the other books it must come from west of I-5.

thank you very much exactly what I said.... and im not saying that there couldn't be rosies east of 1-5 im saying that if there is it is technically classified as a rocky mountain wether u like it or not...

What I am saying is an arbitrary line made up by some organization that isn't from Washington is not scientific. Like I said earlier they put that line there to limit the possibility of cross breeds making their book. Does that automatically make all elk east of I-5 Rockys? No.

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I asked the last roosie I shot, if he knew he was on the wrong side of I5.... he didn't even answer, how rude!

[erk444]

 

[DRENALINJUNKIE]

I heard that all the meat was spoiled on this elk. They left it in the back of a truck with hide on it over night. Can anyone confirm this to be true or not?

[big wood]

I heard that all the meat was spoiled on this elk. They left it in the back of a truck with hide on it over night. Can anyone confirm this to be true or not?

I heard the same thing. I hope the gamies on here follow up on it

[bullfisher]

If I had access to the private property where that bull was taken, I would have no problem using bait as an option, not my first choice but I wouldn't feel bad in the least! Its a toad bull and a roosie iny eyes. I've met jim burnworth and he's a super nice guy, but remember when hunters used to hunt their own animals instead of paying someone else to do it? Or eat the meat from the animals they shot instead of "donating" it? When celeb hunters kill for antlers and notoriety, they are fair game to get flamed on a local forum. Sorry, rant over.

[Billdos Uncle]

U know where the bull was taken?

[Billdos Uncle]

So i hate to burst Barbour bubble but this bull is not going to be the number 1 bull because we all know this green score of 381" is gross score.  Well this bull will not score that great because his frame in not matched that well. I looked at him a few times this summer in person at 100yards or less. 

Is it a nice bull yes it is a great bull.  Is the guide a fing joke  full of elk sheet yes he is.
 I am glad one of the 7 points bulls got shot by a DIY guy on his family's property near by.  And yes there is apples in the field and yes you could watch the whole thing from the highway and see his blind, apple piles and trail camera from the road. You could shoot and arrow from your bow and hit them from merdian!

yeah when we went in to fix the blind so eva shockey and the camera man could fit inside I was like ur putting her right here lol.. u can hear the cars in the back ground hilarious!!! Insane...

[bullfisher]