Restrict Archery and ML seasons to 9 days.

[bigbeamhunter]

Jingles check out the harvest numbers. Or we could just hunt until we hit the number of harvested animals modern gets and call it good. Although to think technology has made it a none primitive weapon sport. I say no late season hunting though

[Billdos Uncle]

If you are talking deer, I wouldn't.  The most productive time of the early season is the first few days when you can take advantage of the bucks being in their velvet stages.

Look at his name... Elk is in it so he is probably referring to elk which I agree I would take 9 days in late September or early October instead of the first week of September... 

[bobcat]

This is the "Deer Hunting" board.

[Billdos Uncle]

This is the "Deer Hunting" board.

If u look at the title u will see its general talk in my opinion... doesn't refer to either season

[Billdos Uncle]

but in his post it does at the very end... should be in the title and if he wants to cut deer season for Archery and ML then he does for elk too.. 

[PA BEN]

Yea this is gonna get a lot of flak and I'm probably gonna be called all kinds of things but I seriously believe that they should restrict the archery and Ml seasons to the same amount of time they allow for Modern.
If 9 days is good enough for modern deer season then it is good enough for Archery and ML.  The heck with this crap of the entire month then another season for late without having to draw special tags......

Stop your whining, out of all the groups ML guys are getting screwed, but I don't see them on here trying to cut your season. 
Modern Firearm General Deer Seasons
High Buck Hunts 11 days
General Season
 9, 14 and 21 days depending on where you hunt.
Late General Season
4 and 12 days depending on where you hunt. 44 days
Early Archery General Deer Seasons
10,15, 21 and 26 days depending on where you hunt.
Late Archery General Deer Seasons
6,10,13,16,19, 20, 23, 36, days depending on where you hunt. 72 days
ML High Buck Hunts
10, 11 days depending on where you hunt
Early Muzzleloader General Deer Seasons
9 days all units
Late Muzzleloader General Deer Seasons
9, 10, 11, 15,19, days depending on where you hunt.  28 days.

[Billdos Uncle]

Yea this is gonna get a lot of flak and I'm probably gonna be called all kinds of things but I seriously believe that they should restrict the archery and Ml seasons to the same amount of time they allow for Modern.
If 9 days is good enough for modern deer season then it is good enough for Archery and ML.  The heck with this crap of the entire month then another season for late without having to draw special tags......

Stop your whining, out of all the groups ML guys are getting screwed, but I don't see them on here trying to cut your season. 
Modern Firearm General Deer Seasons
High Buck Hunts 11 days
General Season
 9, 14 and 21 days depending on where you hunt.
Late General Season
4 and 12 days depending on where you hunt. 44 days
Early Archery General Deer Seasons
10,15, 21 and 26 days depending on where you hunt.
Late Archery General Deer Seasons
6,10,13,16,19, 20, 23, 36, days depending on where you hunt. 72 days
ML High Buck Hunts
10, 11 days depending on where you hunt
Early Muzzleloader General Deer Seasons
9 days all units
Late Muzzleloader General Deer Seasons
9, 10, 11, 15,19, days depending on where you hunt.  28 days.

Hahaha I would take ML elk season and switch it with archery any day of the week. U make a lot of sense  ...    YOUR ELK SEASON IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RUT!!! ALONG WITH DEER SEASON TOO... IF U CANT GET A BUCK WITH AN ML IN 9 DAYS U SHOULD QUIT AND GO BACK TO MODERN

[bobcat]

There is no general elk season "in the middle of the rut."  The peak of the rut is after archery season and before muzzleloader season. And that's obviously set that way intentionally to protect the bulls at the time that they are most vulnerable.

Just like mule deer and blacktail deer- no general season the first two weeks of November.

[Billdos Uncle]

October 4 is in the rut big time!!!... Weather plays a factor in my mind... when it gets to modern they are out of rut.. usually I hunt archery and call for buddies muzzleloader.. Way easier to get a response and a bull to come in during ML... During archery u usually get those bulls to come in quietly due to curiosity and pre-rut conditions apply

[Billdos Uncle]

There is no general elk season "in the middle of the rut."  The peak of the rut is after archery season and before muzzleloader season. And that's obviously set that way intentionally to protect the bulls at the time that they are most vulnerable.

Just like mule deer and blacktail deer- no general season the first two weeks of November.

So for dates pre rut end of august to mid September and mid sepetmber to mid October is rut then mid October to November is post rut...

[Billdos Uncle]

There is no general elk season "in the middle of the rut."  The peak of the rut is after archery season and before muzzleloader season. And that's obviously set that way intentionally to protect the bulls at the time that they are most vulnerable.

Just like mule deer and blacktail deer- no general season the first two weeks of November.

So for dates pre rut end of august to mid September and mid sepetmber to mid October is rut then mid October to November is post rut...

And I believe this varies by a week depending on weather...

[Bookworm007]

I will admit that I have not been around to witness the changes from how hunting used to be in washington to how they are now, but I will tell you what I have noticed. First there are a lot of hunter and not a lot of animals......... this means somebody is not going to get a buck. It doesn't matter what your weapon is that is just how it goes. Next whenever something gets changed with the government whether it is taxes, regs, whatever we seem to be worse off. They are going to restrict you more, charge you more for less ect ect. And lastly I like the way the seasons are set up personally. I believe they do a good job balancing the advantages of each season. Archery folks have to get pretty darn close to have a comfortable shot which is not easy, also pulling back and aiming that bow is a heck of a lot harder than looking down a scope on a stump. Muzzleloaders have to have open sights, you really only have one shot, limited range, and oh yeah when that powder or cap gets wet you are just screwed. Then there are the modern guys, the army of orange. Yeah you get last pick but you get the easiest method and a late season that is generally the rut for deer.

I used to hunt modern firearm but now hunt muzzleloader. I changed because there are less hunters in the field. I could care less about harvest numbers, I care more about being able to hunt without rubbing elbows will every other bubba out there. Also we get a lot less special draw options, but we also get to hunt a little earlier. I don't see anyway to balance it better that will not cause more confusing regulations or cost the average hunting more money.

just my 

[Billdos Uncle]

I will admit that I have not been around to witness the changes from how hunting used to be in washington to how they are now, but I will tell you what I have noticed. First there are a lot of hunter and not a lot of animals......... this means somebody is not going to get a buck. It doesn't matter what your weapon is that is just how it goes. Next whenever something gets changed with the government whether it is taxes, regs, whatever we seem to be worse off. They are going to restrict you more, charge you more for less ect ect. And lastly I like the way the seasons are set up personally. I believe they do a good job balancing the advantages of each season. Archery folks have to get pretty darn close to have a comfortable shot which is not easy, also pulling back and aiming that bow is a heck of a lot harder than looking down a scope on a stump. Muzzleloaders have to have open sights, you really only have one shot, limited range, and oh yeah when that powder or cap gets wet you are just screwed. Then there are the modern guys, the army of orange. Yeah you get last pick but you get the easiest method and a late season that is generally the rut for deer.

I used to hunt modern firearm but now hunt muzzleloader. I changed because there are less hunters in the field. I could care less about harvest numbers, I care more about being able to hunt without rubbing elbows will every other bubba out there. Also we get a lot less special draw options, but we also get to hunt a little earlier. I don't see anyway to balance it better that will not cause more confusing regulations or cost the average hunting more money.

just my 

the only people that aren't happy is the modern guys in my opinion.... Have yet to see an archery guy complain or a muzzy guy besides the last guy who is just off his rocker... 

[Billdos Uncle]

Yea this is gonna get a lot of flak and I'm probably gonna be called all kinds of things but I seriously believe that they should restrict the archery and Ml seasons to the same amount of time they allow for Modern.
If 9 days is good enough for modern deer season then it is good enough for Archery and ML.  The heck with this crap of the entire month then another season for late without having to draw special tags......

Stop your whining, out of all the groups ML guys are getting screwed, but I don't see them on here trying to cut your season. 
Modern Firearm General Deer Seasons
High Buck Hunts 11 days
General Season
 9, 14 and 21 days depending on where you hunt.
Late General Season
4 and 12 days depending on where you hunt. 44 days
Early Archery General Deer Seasons
10,15, 21 and 26 days depending on where you hunt.
Late Archery General Deer Seasons
6,10,13,16,19, 20, 23, 36, days depending on where you hunt. 72 days
ML High Buck Hunts
10, 11 days depending on where you hunt
Early Muzzleloader General Deer Seasons
9 days all units
Late Muzzleloader General Deer Seasons
9, 10, 11, 15,19, days depending on where you hunt.  28 days.

One more thing to add on is that elk season for archery overlaps with deer season! that's every single day of elk.. If u look a muzzy u only have the 4 and 5 of October overlap with deer so re do ur calculations

[Jonathan_S]

Dude, REALLY??? Rifle (now days 500+ yards isnt uncommon perfect example last yr my sister shot her deer with my FULLY SETUP LONG RANGE .243 at 520 yards) muzzy 150 yards or so and the average archer 40 yards or so??? Cry me a damn river and make sure its filled with fish.

Well if you have to shoot 500+yards to get a deer or any game in WA it just shows that you lack real hunting abilities to be able to get closer Cripes why not just lob a howitzer round downrange.

As for those that say get a bow I have one and was extremely proficient with it. Why should archers get so much time??? just because they supposedly can't shoot 250 yards? Get out do some scouting and become a hunter instead of an arrow slinger and quit being so dayum lazy.

  supposedly?