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Author Topic: WDFW Showing their Hand - Ruby Creek Wolf Being Given to "Zoo" - Uh-Huh.  (Read 14039 times)

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In a move that spells out exactly what's been happening at the WDFW in cooperation with pro-wolf groups, the WDFW has captured a problem wolf and instead of putting it down, is releasing it to the care of Wolf Haven. Shocking, right?  :bash:

http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2014/oct/01/pend-oreille-county-wolfs-be-captured-put-zoo/
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Re: WDFW Showing their Hand - Ruby Creek Wolf Being Given to "Zoo" - Uh-Huh.
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2014, 10:16:53 AM »
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Re: WDFW Showing their Hand - Ruby Creek Wolf Being Given to "Zoo" - Uh-Huh.
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2014, 10:22:40 AM »
I think wolf haven needs more breeding stock for THIER release program!  :o
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Re: WDFW Showing their Hand - Ruby Creek Wolf Being Given to "Zoo" - Uh-Huh.
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2014, 10:25:21 AM »
They'll parade her around as a propaganda piece to teach all our children to not hate the wolves, oh and donate to our cause!

« Last Edit: October 05, 2014, 12:41:05 PM by KFhunter »

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Re: WDFW Showing their Hand - Ruby Creek Wolf Being Given to "Zoo" - Uh-Huh.
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2014, 10:30:11 AM »
They'll parade her around as a propaganda piece to teach all our children to not hate the wolves, oh and donate to our cause!
Fair enough...maybe the Cattlemen's should ask wdfw to donate the next wolf capture to them  :dunno:  :chuckle:
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Re: WDFW Showing their Hand - Ruby Creek Wolf Being Given to "Zoo" - Uh-Huh.
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2014, 10:34:16 AM »
This comment from the comments section of the article is interesting.

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Bill McCorkle  Kit Carson • 2 hours ago
Nate Pamplin is not telling the truth, The Wolf Advisory group after discussing all the different reasons this wolf should be put down, called for a hard vote of hands, Nate Pamplin said "I don't want to do that, I'm not going to do that, I'll write it up differently" going against his own advisory group, and doing what ever they want to anyway. They also have in their "wolf facts" out & out lies, saying ungulate popultions in Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming are not affected by wolves which is clearly not the case, So why would you trust anything Wash. F&G has to say?

Sounds like the guy was there.


Might be worth bringing up at the Oct 7 wolf meeting.

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Re: WDFW Showing their Hand - Ruby Creek Wolf Being Given to "Zoo" - Uh-Huh.
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2014, 11:17:59 AM »
I think wolf haven needs more breeding stock for THIER release program!  :o
:yeah:  She'll end up pregnant and then the 'kennel was left open' or 'they dug out in the only breach in the fence'; and then the Mt St Helens pack will appear.  Or something like that.

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Re: WDFW Showing their Hand - Ruby Creek Wolf Being Given to "Zoo" - Uh-Huh.
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2014, 11:51:23 AM »
This is no good......

Got an email, I'll share the meat and potatoes part of it....

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The Commission voted 7 - 1 to allow the Ruby Creek female to be captured.  This sets a very dangerous precedent.  Capturing and putting problem wolves in captivity was not an option in the Wolf Recovery Plan.  Now the anti's will use this as an alternative to lethal take on future problem wolves.

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Re: WDFW Showing their Hand - Ruby Creek Wolf Being Given to "Zoo" - Uh-Huh.
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2014, 02:45:02 PM »
I love our liberal thinking WDFW............... :tup:
I couldn't care less about what anybody says..............

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Re: WDFW Showing their Hand - Ruby Creek Wolf Being Given to "Zoo" - Uh-Huh.
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2014, 03:00:39 PM »
I wonder if the wolves they put into WH will be monitored or at least accounted for by the WDFW over time.
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Re: WDFW Showing their Hand - Ruby Creek Wolf Being Given to "Zoo" - Uh-Huh.
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2014, 03:06:48 PM »
Some people keep talking about wolves??? What Wolves??? Are they the brown coyotes or the gray coyotes? I do know that the gray coyotes are larger in size than the brown coyotes but coyotes all the same.........
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Re: WDFW Showing their Hand - Ruby Creek Wolf Being Given to "Zoo" - Uh-Huh.
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2014, 03:08:14 PM »
I normally stay out of the wolf topics, but WTH is wrong with WDFW? They obviously are not working for the sportsman of this state.

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Re: WDFW Showing their Hand - Ruby Creek Wolf Being Given to "Zoo" - Uh-Huh.
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2014, 03:13:59 PM »
I wonder if the wolves they put into WH will be monitored or at least accounted for by the WDFW over time.

In addition, shouldn't they be neutered? If they're being introduced into an environment that has not only wolves, but wolf hybrids, they shouldn't be allowed to breed.
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Re: WDFW Showing their Hand - Ruby Creek Wolf Being Given to "Zoo" - Uh-Huh.
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2014, 04:13:50 PM »
Part of the WDFW statement from the OP link:
Given the feedback we received and considering the unique situation, we have decided to capture this wolf and place her into captivity.  We have consulted with the staff at Wolf Haven International (in Tenino, Wash.), which has generously offered to accept her into captivity.

We fully understand that we will not be able to place all problem wolves into captivity, because there are simply not enough facilities. Also, most wild born wolves would not transition well into life in captivity.  However, given the very rare behavior this individual is exhibiting, she is likely a good candidate.

Later this week, field staff will attempt to capture this female wolf.  It will remain property of the state, but permitted to be held by Wolf Haven.  The Department and Wolf Haven will develop a ‘quality of life’ plan.  If it is determined the animal will not be able to acclimate to life in captivity, it will be humanely euthanized.


So the wolf is still the state's property...not wolf havens to do with as they please.  I agree with their assessment that even if greenies want this to be a non-lethal alternative it is simply not practical in most cases...this is a unique case.  That being said, I would still agree the wolf should be euthanized...not held in captivity.  Perhaps they are working to build trust with the greenie groups for future wolf management issues...maybe this is a good strategic move for future delisting efforts  :dunno:
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Re: WDFW Showing their Hand - Ruby Creek Wolf Being Given to "Zoo" - Uh-Huh.
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2014, 04:18:16 PM »
The rare behavior she's exhibiting, makes her a good candidate for captivity.  Hmmm... maybe she CAME from captivity.. :peep: Wolfbait?

 


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