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Re: No Bucks, but scored 10 Bonus Points!
« Reply #45 on: October 16, 2014, 05:36:25 PM »
Anyone know of someone that has made a mistake and turned themselves in and what the repercussions were?
... sorry don't mean to jack this thread...   :)
WA has no "accidental take" law. Several bills have been introduced over the years to enact a law but none have ever even gotten out of committee. One of the bills was because a state legislator shot an illegal deer/elk and self reported, WDFW shows up and issues him the full illegal take citation which at the time was $2,540.

Realistically all an officer could do is a) press charges, there are no longer "tickets" for criminal offenses in WA you MUST go to court) b) written/verbal warning.

There are stories of people getting "smaller" tickets for these types of things where basically the officer make a handshake deal with the hunter where the officer will write a citation for some random offense and the hunter will just pay it off. Problem is for some reason there is a spike of "yes sir I will pay it" and then suddenly the guy fights the ticket and wins because the guy didn't actually commit the offense the officer wrote them for. So those handshake deals are gone.

It would be something like this:
Officer contacts guy fishing without a license (mandatory court offense)
Officer says: I'll make you a deal and give you a $99 ticket for barbed hook even though you don't have a barbed hook and you won't face the mandatory court appearance
Violator: Yes sir I'll be sure to pay it, thanks so much

Violator then fights the citation which since it is an infraction the officer won't receive notifiction they are fighting it, and won't need to appear. Violator goes before the judge and says your honor I didn't have a barbed hook/I wasn't in a barbed hook required area. Judge says I agree and dismisses the case. Guy doesn't have to pay a dime.

The days of those handshake deals are gone and it's a shame, but we can only blame society for this

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Re: No Bucks, but scored 10 Bonus Points!
« Reply #46 on: October 16, 2014, 05:55:19 PM »
Anyone know of someone that has made a mistake and turned themselves in and what the repercussions were?
... sorry don't mean to jack this thread...   :)
WA has no "accidental take" law. Several bills have been introduced over the years to enact a law but none have ever even gotten out of committee. One of the bills was because a state legislator shot an illegal deer/elk and self reported, WDFW shows up and issues him the full illegal take citation which at the time was $2,540.

Realistically all an officer could do is a) press charges, there are no longer "tickets" for criminal offenses in WA you MUST go to court) b) written/verbal warning.

There are stories of people getting "smaller" tickets for these types of things where basically the officer make a handshake deal with the hunter where the officer will write a citation for some random offense and the hunter will just pay it off. Problem is for some reason there is a spike of "yes sir I will pay it" and then suddenly the guy fights the ticket and wins because the guy didn't actually commit the offense the officer wrote them for. So those handshake deals are gone.

It would be something like this:
Officer contacts guy fishing without a license (mandatory court offense)
Officer says: I'll make you a deal and give you a $99 ticket for barbed hook even though you don't have a barbed hook and you won't face the mandatory court appearance
Violator: Yes sir I'll be sure to pay it, thanks so much

Violator then fights the citation which since it is an infraction the officer won't receive notifiction they are fighting it, and won't need to appear. Violator goes before the judge and says your honor I didn't have a barbed hook/I wasn't in a barbed hook required area. Judge says I agree and dismisses the case. Guy doesn't have to pay a dime.

The days of those handshake deals are gone and it's a shame, but we can only blame society for this

I don't know if they are totally gone, I got a deal like that not too long back... and I was so thankful, the game warden that did that for me really made me happy to realize that they are not all "out to get you".

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Re: No Bucks, but scored 10 Bonus Points!
« Reply #47 on: October 16, 2014, 06:53:35 PM »
a few years back we killed 5 elk on the opener, later that day the warden was at our camp. He started sticking a meat thermometer into all the quarters, it really felt like he was hoping to find something wrong instead of being happy about our success.

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Re: No Bucks, but scored 10 Bonus Points!
« Reply #48 on: October 16, 2014, 07:08:10 PM »
You did the right thing  :tup:
I hope you find out the truth soon , so as I can watch it consume  you.

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Re: No Bucks, but scored 10 Bonus Points!
« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2014, 02:05:29 PM »
Need more like you and your wife out there! Great job!  :tup:
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Re: No Bucks, but scored 10 Bonus Points!
« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2014, 02:36:49 PM »
Nice job turning that guy in. How do the points work? Do you choose what species they go towards or do you get 10 additional points toward every species you put in for?

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Re: No Bucks, but scored 10 Bonus Points!
« Reply #51 on: October 19, 2014, 03:23:32 PM »
At least the animal didnt go to waste the warden gave it to and older guy that was camped in the area

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Re: No Bucks, but scored 10 Bonus Points!
« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2014, 03:24:26 PM »
At least the animal didnt go to waste the warden gave it to and older guy that was camped in the area

Thats a cool way to handle that.  :tup:
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Re: No Bucks, but scored 10 Bonus Points!
« Reply #53 on: October 20, 2014, 08:05:45 PM »
Good for you man. You did the right thing, the other guy did not.   :tup:
I wish there were more guys like you out there and less like the yahoo that shot the 2 point.
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Re: No Bucks, but scored 10 Bonus Points!
« Reply #54 on: October 20, 2014, 08:23:21 PM »
Nice job turning that guy in. How do the points work? Do you choose what species they go towards or do you get 10 additional points toward every species you put in for?



I got to choose where I wanted my points to go, elk.
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Re: No Bucks, but scored 10 Bonus Points!
« Reply #55 on: October 20, 2014, 08:30:36 PM »
Deer or elk, one category.

http://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-28-291

6. Citizen reward for reporting violations - bonus points: A person who provides information which contributes substantially to the arrest of another person for illegally hunting or killing big game or an endangered species as defined by Title 77 RCW is eligible to receive ten bonus points toward the special hunting permit drawing for one application category of deer or elk special hunting season permits.
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Re: No Bucks, but scored 10 Bonus Points!
« Reply #56 on: October 20, 2014, 10:36:46 PM »
At least the animal didnt go to waste the warden gave it to and older guy that was camped in the area

Thats a cool way to handle that.  :tup:

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Re: No Bucks, but scored 10 Bonus Points!
« Reply #57 on: October 20, 2014, 11:34:24 PM »
Yup. Put it on my quality deer.  Can't do oil tags unfortunately.

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Re: No Bucks, but scored 10 Bonus Points!
« Reply #58 on: October 25, 2014, 03:21:42 PM »
If you were smart you would use that 10 points toward a moose tag, or a branch antler bull tag. 10 pts is nothing to sneeze at, use it wisely.  :tup: Hopefully the hunter learns from his mistake. Some people just get scared, doesn't mean the guy is a POS though. People on here are very rude and troll like at times. They can't get a deer so they bash others. I see it as a inexperienced hunter who made a BAD mistake, but at the end of the day the man was just trying to fill his freezer. He obviously didn't shoot it for its size. None the less thank you for being an ethical, stand-up hunter. :)
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Re: No Bucks, but scored 10 Bonus Points!
« Reply #59 on: October 25, 2014, 03:37:53 PM »
Deer and Elk are all the points can be used for.

It was a mistake they went really bad when he left it suffering half dead.  :bash:
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