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Quote from: bobcat on November 02, 2014, 04:45:08 PMIf they do make baiting deer and elk illegal, I doubt they will include scent. Just because that's how the law banning bear baiting was written doesn't mean it would be be the same for deer and elk.I'm not willing to take that chance.... Scents currently fall under their definition of bait and that is all we have to go off of.Either way this is being handled unethically by WDFW and fellow hunters who are supporting this anti-hunting agenda. Fellow hunters are literally voting against it because it doesn't meet their idea of the aesthetics for the hunt... it is a matter of the majority saying "the way I like to hunt" is more important than "the way you like to hunt".They try to argue about ethics but they have failed to show an understanding of the definition of ethics. Baiting and other methods of hunting are purely an aesthetics issues not an ethics issue. If anything baiting is more ethical than many other methods of hunting because the targets are almost always standing still, at a known distance within reasonable range and more often than not these hunters are not rushed on the shot and wait for optimal shot angles (vs what I see from many other hunting methods where hunters seem to be more likely to take less than optimal shot angles....no scientific data to back that up.. just a casual observation I have made). On these grounds I would argue that baiting is an extremely ethical practice...more so than many/most other hunting methods.
If they do make baiting deer and elk illegal, I doubt they will include scent. Just because that's how the law banning bear baiting was written doesn't mean it would be be the same for deer and elk.
Why do all other states that don't allow baiting, allow the use of scents? I can't imagine why Washington would need to be the only state to ban both.
Quote from: bobcat on November 02, 2014, 05:08:02 PMWhy do all other states that don't allow baiting, allow the use of scents? I can't imagine why Washington would need to be the only state to ban both. It's been pointed out by billy. People might put out a scent intended for deer, but attract bears. Outlawing everything across the board would make it easier for the officers to enforce it. Why risk it?
Quote from: bobcat on November 02, 2014, 05:08:02 PMWhy do all other states that don't allow baiting, allow the use of scents? I can't imagine why Washington would need to be the only state to ban both. Do you really think WDFW will have two definitions of baiting?
Quote from: billythekidrock on November 02, 2014, 05:12:01 PMQuote from: bobcat on November 02, 2014, 05:08:02 PMWhy do all other states that don't allow baiting, allow the use of scents? I can't imagine why Washington would need to be the only state to ban both. Do you really think WDFW will have two definitions of baiting?Yes I do. I surely don't think they would ban doe in heat scent. Has that ever been banned in any other state? If not, why would we be the first? Are deer in this state more susceptible to it? Are excessive deer being killed due to the use of doe in heat scent?
Quote from: DBHAWTHORNE on November 02, 2014, 05:00:07 PMQuote from: bobcat on November 02, 2014, 04:45:08 PMIf they do make baiting deer and elk illegal, I doubt they will include scent. Just because that's how the law banning bear baiting was written doesn't mean it would be be the same for deer and elk.I'm not willing to take that chance.... Scents currently fall under their definition of bait and that is all we have to go off of.Either way this is being handled unethically by WDFW and fellow hunters who are supporting this anti-hunting agenda. Fellow hunters are literally voting against it because it doesn't meet their idea of the aesthetics for the hunt... it is a matter of the majority saying "the way I like to hunt" is more important than "the way you like to hunt".They try to argue about ethics but they have failed to show an understanding of the definition of ethics. Baiting and other methods of hunting are purely an aesthetics issues not an ethics issue. If anything baiting is more ethical than many other methods of hunting because the targets are almost always standing still, at a known distance within reasonable range and more often than not these hunters are not rushed on the shot and wait for optimal shot angles (vs what I see from many other hunting methods where hunters seem to be more likely to take less than optimal shot angles....no scientific data to back that up.. just a casual observation I have made). On these grounds I would argue that baiting is an extremely ethical practice...more so than many/most other hunting methods.I got to ask, where do we get to vote on this issue?
