Long range rifle

[jay.sharkbait]

The people that buy Gunwerks rifles are the people with too much money and not enough knowledge of what makes along range rifle. You can build a $2400 rifles that shoots bugholes for groups. 1/4 MOA is 1/4 MOA. Wether it cost you $2400 or $6400 is up to you. You're worlds ahead of a Gunwerks rifle if you spent $2k on a used custom rifle and $4k on ammo to learn how to shoot.

And that's a fact.........jack!

[rbros]

If your 7 shoots well now, get a good scope and start reloading.  500-600 yds with an accurate rifle is easily done.  Reloading is a must in the long range game though.

[Special T]

I'm looking on some opinions on long range rifles.  I have a 270 and some shorter shooting rifles.  Also have a 7mm rem mag which I have made some 400 yard shots or so with, but I'm considering buying a new scope  that adjusts for yardage and a rifle to go with it.  Something that will shoot 500 to 600 yards accurately. So any help and opinions would be great.  Thanks

What is you general location?

[kball4]

Remington makes a model 700 long range for $700. 300, 7mm or 25-06

[ctwiggs1]

There is a reason why the military snipers don't use a system like this, police marksmen, Benchrest shooters, Precision Rifle Series competitors, etc.

Based on my *limited* experience with military snipers, I don't think that statement is entirely accurate.

[birddogdad]

That whole Gunwerks rifle system with the scope and custom turrets is a bunch of BS.  If you are going to have a custom rifle built, have a custom rifle built, put a nice optic on it that has actual mil/moa adjustments with a reticle to match.  Don't buy into that Gunwerks system, "Just Dial the range on the turret and shoot!"  It would only be precise if the atmospheric conditions were identical to the conditions where the load was developed.  As soon as you get on the mountain, or in hotter or colder temperatures, the turrets would mean nothing.  But with a mil/moa standard system, you would be able to account for those conditions.

He's right.... total buzz kill but correct none the less.

not quite true, everything you get from gunwerks also functions and comes with moa turrets and operations for the nightforce scopes.  If you can do the calcs  all is good or get their range finer....... the "custom" is really in the action that allows for longer COAL which can aid in accuracy, most non custom guns wont run from magazine to breech if you extend the COAL. They also come with top of the line triggers... for hunting applications, most standard recommended max coal will work pretty well as the stock rifle barrels are what they are routinely within 1MAO or 5" at 500yds (in ideal conditions)....... The gunwerks sell is not an inaccurate sell and is that accurate in ideal conditions (1/2 moa@ 1k yds). The real rub that is eluded to in the thread is PRICE. You as the shooter still need to practice and learn the variables to adjust/dope for argued in this thread. They have just taken a lot of that info and workup and consolidated it as well as working up load data for your caliber that for the particular rifle shoots repeatable. Combining this info with turrets, and offering a pretty good programmable rangefinder computer. The real question is who is shooting at game 1000+yds out? Not really the norm.. 500+ sure, even 750 ish... beyond , you better know and really practice as well as the right caliber....

So, I will repeat the same view from past threads.... if you have the knowledge, skills, and TIME. by all means build to suite your dream tack driver... if not, and can afford it, don't pooh pooh the gunwerks system, they are as advertised, yes out of the box accurate. this doesn't mean you will be, just the rifle is...

If anyone thinks they can dust off any rifle, shoot a box of ammo and then go hunt to 1000K, they are going to be very disappointed with results.

[coachcw]

My take on long range rifles is they are great accurate and typically a bit heavy . if that what your looking for and don't mind packing a bit more weight then why not ? my long range rifle will shoot 1000 plus yards sure , am I going to shoot game that far most likely never. But with the system I can shoot 400 500 600 yard shots as chip shots with supreme confidence . I have played around with my different turrets in different temps and altitudes and found that my 5000 yard turret will hit kills zones out to those yardages all day long in summer and winter conditions . so if you can afford one and want to be able to drive tacks at 300 and 400 yards then a custom is a great way to go.
 

[CAMPMEAT]

I think that guys that want to shoot an animal at say, 1000 yards, they better think twice. We shoot a 6 foot saw blade that is painted white. You can see it through binos, but finding it in a scope is a different ball game. If you're looking through a scope at an elk, that is not painted white, you're going to have a helluva time finding the elk. Personally, I'd put a Navy Seal sneak on the elk or deer. Hell, I've got thousand yard shooters, but would never try it. Steel is different, it don't move.......